chillywater

I lived in S.F. late 80's, early 90's, I miss it everyday, great city. Can't say the same for alot of other places I have lived/do live.

gnatthew

tacks

i was there last weekend.
due to incredibly low cash flow I was unable to bring my bicycle (a mistake I will NOT make on my upcoming nyc trip) and all I can say is this: the muni is ****ing WACK.

actually, I had an amazing time drinking in dolores park in the afternoon on a thursday and hiking to the top of bernal to hang out with dogs and take in the view on a sunny sunday, and all that other visiting-from-out-of-town crap.

I definitely saw my share of junkies roaming, but was downright shocked that I was only panhandled maybe a half dozen times over four days of walking everywhere.
portland has mad junkies too, and these ones want my money.

never had a problem with the local rat-birds though.

onetwentyeight 

i hate muni so much.

evanyc

when ya comin to NYC?

tacks

sept 13-20.
the bike is SO coming with me.

Retem

Dude stay outta the tenderloine and stop sellin to the pigeons. c'mon now

evanyc

nice. sept is one of the best riding months in NYC. get in touch with the NYC crew and we'll do some riding.

tacks

that would be dope. the whole point of this trip is to do some urban exploration.
every other time Ive gone there it's been really scheduled or busy and the city I've seen is just what happened to be near where I was going.
I'll pm you as it gets closer.

donkekus

dude, sf is not dangerous. though, i suppose big block is sketchy.

i remember when there actually used to be poor people here...

jonb

i'll agree with this post somewhat though. i've been jumped here but never in phily, nyc, toronto, bmore or any of the other east coast cities i've lived in.

freebird

Jumped twice (skins and lower haight project types), robbed @gunpoint in the Western Add., countless psycho bum freakouts, and I can't even begin to talk about the s h i t I witnessed/particiated in 5 years working the bar at Treat St, let alone the ten years I slung booze at the Elbo Room. Fuggin City is a madhouse.

Gnarboots

after living in bed-stuy for four years, and on the corner of 26th and s. van ness for six months, i wil say without hesitation that s.f. was/is way more gnarly. no unprovoked machete attacks at my bodega in b'klyn.

onetwentyeight 

ive never been jumped, but i was just walking home from getting some food and a 6 pack and saw a bunch of people smoking crack.

crack rocks!

donkekus

how long ago was this?

slopvehicle

I spied an unsheathed hypodermic at a bus stop last time I was in Portland. Kicked it into a storm drain so nobody would, um, step on it. Then thought "****, I hope this doesn't drain to the river!"

freebird

Moved to ess eff in '91, left (to Oakland) in '00, but continued to work/ride/get down in the city until Jan this year, at which point I escaped to a super freaky small town somewhere between Portland and Boise.

tacks

i wish i would have known about lower haight projects. I ended up walking through there on saturday on my way to the tenderloin to see snakes on a plane.

you know it's awesome when you get way sketched out on a weekend afternoon in brilliant sunlight.

it was then that I decided to get on the muni which was, honestly, not that much better.

freebird

The Lower Haight has been sorta the unsung effed-up, get stabbed, get shot, get beat up for no reason stumbling home from the Mad Dog neighborhood since way back when. Virtually untouched by the whole dot com boom (which wiped out a bunch of other "soulful" spots), it's still as treacherous as it ever was. Avoid.

tacks

it was the only part of the city where I saw multiple "for rent" signs.

freebird

Also, the projects I'm talking about have been torn down for some years. Those are townhouses (free, brand new houses built for dirtbags to deal drugs out of in comfort in the most expensive city west of the Miss.) Glad to hear that visitors from out of town are still terrified walking through there in broad daylight. Sf --"Keeping it Real".

onetwentyeight 

woohoo thats my neck of the woods! I walk 4 blocks one way and it gets ghetto, and 2 blocks in the other direction and it gets gay. (i live in duboce triangle)

diversity is awesome.

freebird

Yeah! The Triangle! Before there was a name for that neighborhood we called it the Upper Safeway. I lived @ 20 Sanchez for 5 years and yes, gay to the left, (clean streets, little dogs, fancy rainbows), scuz to the right (the LH).
Totally central to everything. Mission bars/food, Amoeba, Market corridor/downtown, Castro, panhandle. I kinda miss it.

endform

dont worry, there's far worse in there

https://www.deq.state.or.us/nwr/PortlandHarbor/ph.htm

humancongereel

yeah, willamette is disgusting...i have a friend who fell into it a couple of weeks back.. yuck.