eai cog to miche hub?
#6
the misinformation is starting to get ugly...you need this
ISO standard threads: 1.375 Inch x 24tpi (34.92mm x 1.058mm), fits English and Italian threaded hubs.
English thread 1.37 Inch x 24tpi.
im pretty sure eai's are iso and ****
ISO standard threads: 1.375 Inch x 24tpi (34.92mm x 1.058mm), fits English and Italian threaded hubs.
English thread 1.37 Inch x 24tpi.
im pretty sure eai's are iso and ****
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okay I stand corrected I have also seen soma cogs that are a weird thread cut something in between ital and english... so it will fit both
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Originally Posted by Retem
okay I stand corrected I have also seen soma cogs that are a weird thread cut something in between ital and english... so it will fit both
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yeah I wouldn't suggest it I just stick with tha good stuffs nothing funny phil wood and suntour
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Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
So, uh, do the math for me -
I run 45 x 17
I run 45 x 17
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ok, so the EAI cog will in fact screw on that hub right? I know that the lock ring is different thread so i bought one, i just didn't want to have to buy that carrier for the miche hub, i only want to use myEAI cog that i have on my DA track hub. thanks
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Originally Posted by na975
will it screw off once i been riding for while?
So, yes...they work together okay.
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Miche Hubs / cogs are 35 X 24
According to this:
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/revi...breview/miche/
"Miche Hubs and cog-carriers use Italien threading which is 35mm*24tpi (1.378 inch), while Shimano, Formula, Suzue, Phil, etc. use BSA threading 1.370"*24tpi - which translates to 34.798mm*24tpi. Also, and i hope i'm using the correct english terms here, the thread angle on a BSA thread is 60 degrees, radius 0.17mm, while on ITA it's 55deg and 0.14mm. "
Miche works only with Campagnolo !!
According to this:
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/revi...breview/miche/
"Miche Hubs and cog-carriers use Italien threading which is 35mm*24tpi (1.378 inch), while Shimano, Formula, Suzue, Phil, etc. use BSA threading 1.370"*24tpi - which translates to 34.798mm*24tpi. Also, and i hope i'm using the correct english terms here, the thread angle on a BSA thread is 60 degrees, radius 0.17mm, while on ITA it's 55deg and 0.14mm. "
Miche works only with Campagnolo !!
#25
continuing the above quote
"These differences are tiny, and as you said, an italian threaded cog (Miche or Campy) will thread on a regular BSA hub, but as you can see the italian thread diameter is slightly larger than BSA. This reduces the contact area, and could very well increase the risk of a stripped hub.
I've been using the Miche system on #3,058 / #2,189 for 1.5 years now and i am a fan, still i wouldn't suggest using it on a BSA hub, especially if do a lot of skidding / ride in city traffic. I may be a bit paranoid about this, but i have seen a couple of stripped track hubs. "
this is the only firsthand claim that i've seen as far as damage due to the thread incompatibility. as pointed out, the threading pitch is the same (24 tpi) but the miche hubs/cogs have a diameter (at the threads) that is ~0.2 mm larger than your DA hub. this had never caused issues for me (using a DA cog on a primato hub) but according to Dirk, Karlsruhe (Germany) it's possible.
"These differences are tiny, and as you said, an italian threaded cog (Miche or Campy) will thread on a regular BSA hub, but as you can see the italian thread diameter is slightly larger than BSA. This reduces the contact area, and could very well increase the risk of a stripped hub.
I've been using the Miche system on #3,058 / #2,189 for 1.5 years now and i am a fan, still i wouldn't suggest using it on a BSA hub, especially if do a lot of skidding / ride in city traffic. I may be a bit paranoid about this, but i have seen a couple of stripped track hubs. "
this is the only firsthand claim that i've seen as far as damage due to the thread incompatibility. as pointed out, the threading pitch is the same (24 tpi) but the miche hubs/cogs have a diameter (at the threads) that is ~0.2 mm larger than your DA hub. this had never caused issues for me (using a DA cog on a primato hub) but according to Dirk, Karlsruhe (Germany) it's possible.



