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Old 01-28-07 | 02:05 AM
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"Jack Godfrey Wood's Locksit concept combines security with convenience by eliminating the need for cyclists to detach and carry around their seat without compromising the safety of the bicycle. Locksit snaps backwards to lock itself to the rear tire while the bike frame is secured as usual."

[taken from core77.com]

pretty nice idea i think. just thought i'd share.
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Old 01-28-07 | 02:21 AM
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clever idea...

ironically they made it just ugly enough where i wouldn't ever think it would get stolen anyway
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Old 01-28-07 | 02:25 AM
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I see no need for this widget. It looks unnecessarily heavy and you have to ride with that goofy and possibly uncomforable saddle, there's no choice. I would go for Pitlock skewers or caulk/ glued ball bearings instead.
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Old 01-28-07 | 03:25 AM
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I would go for caulk/ glued ball bearings instead.
??? What's them then?
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Old 01-28-07 | 03:30 AM
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??? What's them then?
I believe mander is referring to gluing ball bearings into the nut heads on your seat post binder bolt and/or seat post to prevent people from walking up with a hex wrench and unscrewing them.
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Old 01-28-07 | 05:35 AM
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Let me see... heavy proprietary and potentially catastrophically failing seatpost, and you're locked to using that particular saddle because the lock's built into it. I think I'll pass.

I'd sooner use a QR post, remove it and pull my lock through the saddle rails as I lock up.
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Old 01-28-07 | 09:08 AM
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That seat looks extremely heavy, ugly and uncomfortable. No need for the lock. Who would steal it?
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Old 01-28-07 | 09:21 AM
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damn right it "snaps backwards"
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Old 01-28-07 | 09:28 AM
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I like how its shown on a MTB, I like to get behind my saddle on my MTB in some situations, that thing would rip my sac off If I tried it.
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Old 01-28-07 | 09:41 AM
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That's probably the most dangerous bike-safety
contraption I've ever seen!
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Old 01-28-07 | 09:54 AM
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i bet whoever "designed" that doesn't actually ride.

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Old 01-28-07 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by br995
I believe mander is referring to gluing ball bearings into the nut heads on your seat post binder bolt and/or seat post to prevent people from walking up with a hex wrench and unscrewing them.
Yeah, or apparently you can use silicone caulk. The point (for anyone who's curious) is that anyone who wants to undo the allen key needs either solvent or a needle and fifteen minutes of crud pickin' time. This is more of an inconvenience for thieves than for you, esp if you hava a saddle position you are happy with, and ideally most thieves will just move on to easier pickings.
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That concept is completely illogical. What does it solve? It only creates more problems.

EDIT - I want to flesh out the problems:

The seatpost needs to be unnecessarily heavy and reinforced for the bend mechanism to not interfere with normal usage

You'd be stuck with limited saddle choices

The whole thing would be heavier and less flexible in terms of choice compared to a simple auxiliary cable, the cyclist already has a lock, which is the heavy part, not the cable

ARghh this thing makes so little sense I can't even think.
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^^Nice one
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Old 01-28-07 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
damn right it "snaps backwards"
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Old 01-28-07 | 03:45 PM
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ah, there's the old bikeforums.net spirit we've been missing.

i saw this on core77 and had to post it just to see what kind of responses i would get. interesting concept, but i have to agree. that seat is ugly, the "snap back" post doesn't sit well with me, but i wouldn't wanna steal it because its so damn clunky and, in the end, that's the whole point: anti-theft
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Old 01-29-07 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mander

^^Nice one
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That concept is completely illogical. What does it solve? It only creates more problems.

EDIT - I want to flesh out the problems:

The seatpost needs to be unnecessarily heavy and reinforced for the bend mechanism to not interfere with normal usage

You'd be stuck with limited saddle choices

The whole thing would be heavier and less flexible in terms of choice compared to a simple auxiliary cable, the cyclist already has a lock, which is the heavy part, not the cable

ARghh this thing makes so little sense I can't even think.

agreed, pitlock for the quick release and caulk & ball for the rest
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Old 01-29-07 | 10:20 PM
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im gonna put this on my belt driven bike

with my airless tires and this thing ill have the hummer of bikes
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Old 01-29-07 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tylergarrison

"Jack Godfrey Wood's Locksit concept combines security with convenience by eliminating the need for cyclists to detach and carry around their seat without compromising the safety of the bicycle. Locksit snaps backwards to lock itself to the rear tire while the bike frame is secured as usual."

[taken from core77.com]

pretty nice idea i think. just thought i'd share.
Hey its a left side drive geared MTB. Apparently they have some MORE amazing inventions cookin up.
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Old 01-29-07 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by deathhare
Hey its a left side drive geared MTB. Apparently they have some MORE amazing inventions cookin up.
They mirrored the image I believe.
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Old 01-30-07 | 03:08 AM
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^ It's a computer generated image.
You think deathhare was serious? He was just pointing out how clueless the manufacturer is about bikes in general. BTW, the brake rotor is on the correct side.
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Old 01-30-07 | 07:23 AM
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You know they are serious about bikes if they have a full-suspension bike with bar-ends on it. That's how all the expensive bikes at X-mart are set up.
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Old 01-30-07 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeroplane
You know they are serious about bikes if they have a full-suspension bike with bar-ends on it. That's how all the expensive bikes at X-mart are set up.
I was once at Dick's sporting goods, curious if they had any nice road bikes (they didn't). There was a middle aged man exclaiming to his friend how the dual suspension mtb's with disc brakes were "cutting edge technology!"

For who? The 1/100th of a percent of cyclists who ride down dry ski slopes in the summer?
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Old 01-30-07 | 09:42 AM
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This is like some college design project that won some sort of lame prize. It seems that this also limits your seatpost height adjustment ability. Also what happens if you want to adjust the saddle? does the saddle not come off the seatpost clamp? If not, whats to stop the theif from disconnecting your saddle or seatpost and making off with the wheel or whatever?
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