willypilgrim

It's always amusing when people play the "he's been doing _____ since before you ______" card.

Do we really need to give people credit just for being born before someone else, thus giving them additional time to figure something out?

nathbdp

Respect your elders. The time will come when you're the old fart, (un)worthy of respect.

willypilgrim

haha, one of the dumbest things i remember from growing up. good thing my folks never told me that.

TimArchy

Yeah, well I've been on bikeforums since before the internet was invented by Al Gore.
So my opinion wins.

marqueemoon

Wise people usually dress their age. Just sayin'.

darksiderising

says who? and what styles are appropriate for what ages?

kemmer

We sure as hell do. All progress made by mankind depends on it.

slopvehicle

this has been posted, flagged and reposted on our local craigslist:

LóFarkas

Not in general but I guess staying in a messenger job for X years deserves some credit. Means you're tough enough to get by from what you earn w/ messing and you've probably learned a thing or two about bikes and riding along the way.
Idiots who ride dangerously, have no skill or strength/stamina etc. get sorted out by natural selection pretty quickly I guess.
Note: I'm not a messie myself.

Zombie Carl

The same kind of credit that a veteran burger-flipper at Wendy's deserves. People that work crappy menial jobs for long periods of time are usually doing it for a reason (i.e. they are either non-documented workers, or, as I assume is the case here, just stupid)

Suttree

That's a little harsh, no? Maybe he keeps on because it's fun?
Takes more skill than flipping meat cakes
at the grease pit. Check out Joel
Metz's website sometime, seems like
he's been a msg for years. Dude isn't an idiot.

I'm not saying this Bobo or Bonobo guy is
the Dalai Lama and all, just sayin. . .

Zombie Carl

I'm sure there are intelligent people that do this job because they get some deep gratification from it, somehow. But when Poochy is held up as an exemplar for having the same crappy job for a long period of time and getting lost and drinking a 12 pack...

Well, c'mon.

Zombie Carl

I was reading about his Paris-Brest-Paris stuff. That **** sounds awesome.

Oh No

dial "m" for monkey.

willypilgrim

for serious, he must be the worst messenger in the world to mess for that long and get lost on the first checkpoint of an alleycat.

Suttree

that's funny--

djeucalyptus

I love the $40 price tag too

goldenskeletons

zombie carl, i wholeheartedly disagree with you, but you can't be a messenger over the internet, so it doesn't really matter, does it? we also have completely different perspectives on what is and is not a menial job.

i got a lot more personal satisfaction out of a full day's work as a courier than i do as the editor/after effects specialist for Speed Racer. at the end of the day i've sat in front of a computer for 10 hours. but that's just me. maybe deep down i'm just really blue collar. i certainly do appreciate a steady paycheck though.

conor

kidtwisty

you know, you don't have to post your own bike in the jackass thread if you don't want to.

edit: nevermind, he got it off of fgg, so, make fun away!

i've always found those frames to be butt ugly.

slopvehicle

apart from the easily-corrected problems (seat angle, cut excess steerer tube), the only truly awful thing are those decals. yuck. I mean, what was the designer going for? Goths? Sexually repressed middle-age roadies who make regular visits to their local dominatrix?

you know... seat angle, harsh aluminum ride, ugly welds, ridiculous decals.... maybe this really IS the bike of a masochist.

conor

if that bicycle were mine:
-the steerer tube would be cut.
-the saddle would not be angled that much.
-the frame would not be fetish.

RaeFixie

this makes me laugh "the frame would not be fetish"...lol

conor

i'm glad you enjoyed it!

schnee

I've seen a few nice builds with the black one (no decals of course). I forget who had it, but it had some funky Cinelli one-piece handlebar-stem combo and some Mavic low-spoke rims. It looked really bad-ass.