erichsia

I wasn't yelling at you, I don't even know who the hell you are. I was voicing a dissenting opinion against the person quoted, which wasn't you.

and listen, you me and everyone we know live in a world where something can be designed in Sweden, manufactured in China and assembled in America. The notion of an insular American economy that thrives only at the expense of the countries around it is outdated and backwards. When other nations suffer, we suffer as well. Buy whatever makes you happy, cause at the end of the day, unless there are regulatory laws legislated to keep banks in check (not likely), the only way you're going to help pull America out of recession is by spending your way out of it.

zeBRAHz

i wasn't saying you or anyone was yelling at me, i was just trying to prevent it.

i know buying american won't revive the economy (100%) nor is that my intent... owning stuff with a big stamp that says made in USA is just a great feeling, more people should try it. heck, most of the stuff has a lifetime warrantee!! even socks!

mconlonx

What bars are that? Where'd you get them?

ichitz

pfft. Oh please. I'm really tired of arrogant americans thinking their country is the ****. Not that I don't like the US and A. I'm just saying you can't really diss all products made in asia as inferior. Btw, it's taiwan, not china. And you'll find that most of the computer electronics you own are taiwanese companies. When we had 3G about 10 years ago, I came to the states and america JUST started introducing color screen phone. We can use our phone and internet in any underground subway while the train is moving and our trains come on time by the second.

Just because US companies pays taiwan labor workers cheap ass money to mass produce products doesn't mean it's inferior. If you really think about it, which mass produced product isn't crap?

RubberDucks

eighth inch classic track drops, very comfortable alternative to real track drops...

mconlonx

Ooo, thanks!

I was looking at these Charge Bowl bars, but US distributor BTI is out of stock, would have to order from UK. Looks pretty similar.

mrbUSA

What would be the best way to remove the decal (?) off the downtube?
Thanks, Mike

zeBRAHz

you can't, it's under the clear coat. either sand it down and re-paint, paint over the clear coat, or slap some stickers on it!

ismellfish2

You are an idiot.

dewthedew

man I havent been on here in awhile.. still got my kilo TT 2 years strong!

avisualperson

very nice, that chrome Kilo.

zeBRAHz

is that because you're a hippy or because you don't understand humor?

BoozyMcliverRot

Your both idiots for arguing on the interwebs.

J/K but no one wins here.

robb99

It looks like Im gonna be grabbing one of these kilo tts. My question is about sizing, I ve asked the locals and they told me at 5'9" and a 30.5 inseam i need a 55 but everyone on here seems to be getting a little on the smaller side. What exactly should i be getting because i don t want to be getting a bike that s not the right size and Im getting conflicting advice. Please help

Scrodzilla

robb - If it helps at all, I'm 5'11" and ride a 53 quite comfortably.

DArthurBrown

I also felt bad about riding around on a foreign-made bike, but there are a couple of very sad facts that Americans are reluctant to admit or seek. The first is that there really is no such thing as an American-made bike. Even the Cannondales and Treks that claim to be domestic are not. Only the OCLV frames are made entirely in the US. Consider the origin of the components, and there is no bike actually "MADE IN USA". In fact, the Kilo TT you're riding would have likely been a Fuji, or a Giant, or a Specialized or something else if it had been sent down a different conveyor belt.

The second point is harder for most Americans to swallow. The Chinese-made frames and Taiwanese frames are actually made better than "American made" frames of similar quality control. Every time someone investigates the quality of welds, of the paint, etc the Chinese frames always come out on top. Now, that isn't the same as saying they aren't defective more often, which may or may not be true--but it's hard to say, since so few frames are actually completely constructed in the US.

The problem with outsourcing manufacturing isn't just that it can be done cheaper elsewhere, it's also that the manufacturing can be done as well elsewhere. American workers have got to suck it up and start performing the way they believe they are and start acknowledging that in order to be competitive as a labor force, there will have to be sacrifices. Until then, there won't be "American bikes" as there has been before, so you can feel at least neutral about riding your Kilo TT.

robb99

I appreciate it, so a 53 seems reasonable to everyone for my size (a couple posts up)

Scrodzilla

Right on. It sounds like a 53 will be just right for you based on the measurements you gave.

WoundedKnee

US and A... rofl.

stillanimal

a few updates to my chromeo: handmade head tube decal,

front brake,

& a 52t chainring.

now running 52x19

sma

My Kilo TT Deluxe

stillanimal

that looks great! makes me want to go threaded.

erichsia

for the record, Zebrahz took my words out of context and changed them to fit his needs. this is what I actually said:
which i followed up with:

Dustintendo

just got the saddle

Scrodzilla

This looks awesome.