Kilo TT vs Masi Speciale Fixed?
06-29-07 | 07:32 AM
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Full disclosure: I own the Speciale.
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
06-29-07 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by heads up!
Full disclosure: I own the Speciale.
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
06-29-07 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by heads up!
Full disclosure: I own the Speciale.
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
I think all the negative comments on the Masi's looks have to do with a terrible stock photo. I've taken out a spacer, flipped the stem, dipped the handlebars, and stuck a racing saddle on there and the bike looks positively mean. Yes, the fork looks ******** in the stock photo, but it's much better in person. Proof of the pudding is that I get a fair bit of toe overlap on my clipless with the cleats pushed all the way forward (bringing my foot all the way back).
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
Now, my question: where you getting one for $400, and how many people hating on the Speciale have actually seen it in person up close and, god forbid, taken a spin on one?
06-29-07 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by xploringsound
i understand that...i guess i could restate the question
do all of the entry level bikes being talked about on ss/fg have the geometry that lends itself to toe overlap?
just curious, because im shopping and the overlap bugs the sh** out of me.
do all of the entry level bikes being talked about on ss/fg have the geometry that lends itself to toe overlap?
just curious, because im shopping and the overlap bugs the sh** out of me.
"entry level" doesn't matter....look at the geometry.
"entry level" or "non-entry level" track bikes have track geometry which lends itself to toe over-lap.
road geometry typically does not lend itself to toe over-lap but it occurs sometimes.
06-29-07 | 10:05 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by anomaly
You passed me today in traffic on 14th while I was in my car. The $400 price is from a LBS I used to work at...
06-29-07 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by heads up!
People love this bike, strangers and bike shop employees both comment on it all the time.
flipping the stem was required for me too.
06-29-07 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by heads up!
Ha! Yes, that would be me, although more Speciales are popping up on the DC roads these days. The matching blue TT pad and Bell Sweep helmet will tip you off for sure. 14th street is my territory - better get the Mercier or I'll have to run you off the road!
06-29-07 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
To me, the choice is obvious, the Kilo TT. The geometry is a lot tighter and it looks nice. The Masi looks like a road bike and the wheel base looks super long to me. They've done a pretty crappy job of keeping the magic in the Masi name, if you ask me.
magic in the masi name? for a supposedly reputable cycling company, and the fact that every bike is emblazoned with a trillion italian flags, every single masi out today has crappy low end japanese product across the board and is assembled in taiwan.... hahaha.
06-29-07 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by megatron
magic in the masi name? for a supposedly reputable cycling company, and the fact that every bike is emblazoned with a trillion italian flags, every single masi out today has crappy low end japanese product across the board and is assembled in taiwan.... hahaha.
The Masi's don't have a trillion Italian flags. In fact, there's just one, along with a group of other country's flags, like an unabbreviated version of the WCS stripes. As for Japanese components, I don't think stuff made by TruVativ for SRAM counts there. And, they're the same components on the Taiwan made Mericer, Pista, Rush Hour, Windsor, ... need I go on?
And when you're talking "every single Masi" do you mean the Dura Ace equipped stuff too?
Feel free to dis anything you can think of, but at least get your facts straight.
06-29-07 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bonelesschicken
Woah, I just woke up from a nap so I may be imagining this but do the Merciers now have forward sloping top tubes?
06-29-07 | 07:28 PM
#41
Originally Posted by howgauche
Is it possible to get the decal on the Mercier fork off?
06-29-07 | 07:31 PM
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Someone on the picture thread posted about removing
the logo from his gang-green Pista. He used a harsh
chemical stripper and timed it right so that it only took
off the logo, but not the paint. I would presume that
the same thing would be possible with the Kilo TT.
the logo from his gang-green Pista. He used a harsh
chemical stripper and timed it right so that it only took
off the logo, but not the paint. I would presume that
the same thing would be possible with the Kilo TT.
06-29-07 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
Someone on the picture thread posted about removing
the logo from his gang-green Pista. He used a harsh
chemical stripper and timed it right so that it only took
off the logo, but not the paint. I would presume that
the same thing would be possible with the Kilo TT.
the logo from his gang-green Pista. He used a harsh
chemical stripper and timed it right so that it only took
off the logo, but not the paint. I would presume that
the same thing would be possible with the Kilo TT.
06-30-07 | 12:14 AM
#44
Originally Posted by BRANDUNE
Ehhh...no, I think he used Citristrip which is relatively mild
Looks like this:
07-02-07 | 12:22 AM
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Mean looking
The Masi looks sweet with the fork flipped, I was in between the Masi and a 07 langster because i could get a good deal on either. I went with the langster because i'm a sucker for Alum... but Mercier or Masi... deff Masi if you set it up like that one.
07-02-07 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by heads up!
I wouldn't be responding to your troll opinions, but your troll facts warrant it.
The Masi's don't have a trillion Italian flags. In fact, there's just one, along with a group of other country's flags, like an unabbreviated version of the WCS stripes. As for Japanese components, I don't think stuff made by TruVativ for SRAM counts there. And, they're the same components on the Taiwan made Mericer, Pista, Rush Hour, Windsor, ... need I go on?
And when you're talking "every single Masi" do you mean the Dura Ace equipped stuff too?
Feel free to dis anything you can think of, but at least get your facts straight.
The Masi's don't have a trillion Italian flags. In fact, there's just one, along with a group of other country's flags, like an unabbreviated version of the WCS stripes. As for Japanese components, I don't think stuff made by TruVativ for SRAM counts there. And, they're the same components on the Taiwan made Mericer, Pista, Rush Hour, Windsor, ... need I go on?
And when you're talking "every single Masi" do you mean the Dura Ace equipped stuff too?
Feel free to dis anything you can think of, but at least get your facts straight.
in fact i build masis out of the box at work and i can tell you they have alot of problems and half the time i feel they arent worth the hassle to build let alone buy
need i go on?
****ing pecker head.
07-02-07 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by veggiemafia
If your homeboy would like to race track, then I say he should get the Mercier. If, however, he wants to ride on the street, I say either is going to make him equally happy.
Heaven forbid someone ride a bike with road geometry on the road. Everybody knows you need track geometry to go to the bar. (That said, I ride my track bike to the bar more often than I actually make it to the track.)
Heaven forbid someone ride a bike with road geometry on the road. Everybody knows you need track geometry to go to the bar. (That said, I ride my track bike to the bar more often than I actually make it to the track.)
For street riding, I'd take the Masi any day. LBS has one in stock and it's a very nice looking bike. Why anyone thinks riding with their @ss in the air and their nose sniffing the front tire is cool is beyond me but to each his own. The street is not a velodrome.
Orange bikes? They go faster and chicks love them.