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johnprolly 07-06-07 02:11 PM

wait, so the logic is that risers don't belong on track bikes because track bikes belong on the velodrome? hmmm... why are you riding a track bike out of the velodrome then?

FACE IT - people ride MTB clipless shoes in the city for the practicallity - not the design intention.... same with risers.

Sorry but risers make more sense in a city like nyc. For all you people living in the suburbs, yeah stick with your drops, but when there's a gaping pothole coming at me between cars, I'd like to pop up over it with ease and not have to come up from the drops to do so...

bonechilling 07-06-07 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by wolfbrother
how can you hate this guy? \/
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wolfbrother 07-06-07 02:13 PM

yeah. i think i figured it out now, though.

THESFGIANT 07-06-07 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by johnprolly
wait, so the logic is that risers don't belong on track bikes because track bikes belong on the velodrome? hmmm... why are you riding a track bike out of the velodrome then?

FACE IT - people ride MTB clipless shoes in the city for the practicallity - not the design intention.... same with risers.

Sorry but risers make more sense in a city like nyc. For all you people living in the suburbs, yeah stick with your drops, but when there's a gaping pothole coming at me between cars, I'd like to pop up over it with ease and not have to come up from the drops to do so...

This is Exactly what I was trying to say to the guy that said, "It's a track bike!"

jimmy_jazz 07-06-07 02:19 PM

Risers cut down to the width of a pair of MTB grips is the dumbest thing ever.

useless127 07-06-07 02:20 PM

i look cool like the next guy with tight black shants, chrome messenger bag, cycling cap, shtty mustache, and bianchi pista in hand.

right? that's what risers are for on a track bike correct?

THESFGIANT 07-06-07 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
Right, had the drops been at an appropriate height you probably would have used them more. Taken to the extreme if you raised them high enough they wold just take the place of the tops but actually provide a comfortable sturdy grip.

Why wouldn't it be? Really the only thing I have against risers in general is that they are flat out inferior to flat bars.

So what would be the appropriate height? When the stem is raised to the max, and the bottom of the drops is at top tube height? Is that your ideal height that you speak of?

kitten_sandwich 07-06-07 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
Really the only thing I have against risers in general is that they are flat out inferior to flat bars.

well, i guess depending on which qualities you are measuring, but if you are talking about adjustability, then risers ftw, sorry dude.

surly did a nice article on it, get learned.

http://www.surlybikes.com/spew2.html

dutret 07-06-07 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by THESFGIANT
So what would be the appropriate height? When the stem is raised to the max, and the bottom of the drops is at top tube height? Is that your ideal height that you speak of?

Apparently not if you still didn't use the drops. Perhaps you had the wrong stem or too small of a frame.


FACE IT - people ride MTB clipless shoes in the city for the practicallity - not the design intention.... same with risers.

Sorry but risers make more sense in a city like nyc. For all you people living in the suburbs, yeah stick with your drops, but when there's a gaping pothole coming at me between cars, I'd like to pop up over it with ease and not have to come up from the drops to do so
MTB shoes are the best tool available. It would be nice if someone made a stiff shoe with secure closure and better tread but such a shoe doesn't exist leaving us with stiff shoes with secure closures and tread meant for climbing a muddy hill.

Riser bars aren't the best tool for ****. Flat bars are slightly better for any use.
Cut off risers are even worse. They may be better then low track drops but that is a pretty low hurdle. Road drops with hoods, flats or bullhorns are a better option depending on what you need.
People put risers on bikes cause everyone else does not cause they are truly the best option.

dutret 07-06-07 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by kitten_sandwich
well, i guess depending on which qualities you are measuring, but if you are talking about adjustability, then risers ftw, sorry dude.

surly did a nice article on it, get learned.

http://www.surlybikes.com/spew2.html


There is ****ty adjustably. As surly itself admits you change every aspect of the bar together when you rotate it. Sweep and rise can be adjusted in the same way with a flat bar but you don't have to move the bar back and forth to do so.

MIN 07-06-07 02:56 PM

Risers bars are for downhill bikes and freeride bikes. Call me a purist.

My Ellsworth
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...worth_full.jpg

My Kona
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../Kona_Drop.jpg

filtersweep 07-06-07 02:56 PM

You can't spin your drops when riding a wheelie.... :D

johnprolly 07-06-07 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by kitten_sandwich
well, i guess depending on which qualities you are measuring, but if you are talking about adjustability, then risers ftw, sorry dude.

surly did a nice article on it, get learned.

http://www.surlybikes.com/spew2.html

:roflmao: :roflmao:

mugatu 07-06-07 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by johnprolly
FACE IT - people ride MTB clipless shoes in the city for the practicallity - not the design intention.... same with risers.

Sorry but risers make more sense in a city like nyc. For all you people living in the suburbs, yeah stick with your drops, but when there's a gaping pothole coming at me between cars, I'd like to pop up over it with ease and not have to come up from the drops to do so...

It's difficult to bunny hop from the drops? News to me, especially since the only functional advantage of risers over drops or horns is the ability to do barspins. Seems to me anyone talented enough to be modifying their bike for barspins can undoubtedly hop a pothole or curb from drops at high speed.

Hawk Wheels 07-06-07 03:20 PM

HATE ME NOW!!
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n.../risersFTW.jpg
RISERS WITH SPACE FOR A BMX # PLATE FTW!!

kwhord 07-06-07 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by MIN

What advantages does a riser bar offer that drops don't already have?

You can do bunny hops and nose wheelies easier with risers.

skinnyland 07-06-07 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by msneeri2@hotmai
i had an egg, cheese, and canadian bacon sandwich for brekkie this morning. It was good, but the bread was too dense. it was, like, all i could taste. tabasco would have been killer, but none was around. anyways, what are you doing later?

fixed gear + dive bar.
why, what else is there to do later?

babychris 07-06-07 03:32 PM

bikes are stupid.

THESFGIANT 07-06-07 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
Apparently not if you still didn't use the drops. Perhaps you had the wrong stem or too small of a frame.



MTB shoes are the best tool available. It would be nice if someone made a stiff shoe with secure closure and better tread but such a shoe doesn't exist leaving us with stiff shoes with secure closures and tread meant for climbing a muddy hill.

Riser bars aren't the best tool for ****. Flat bars are slightly better for any use.
Cut off risers are even worse. They may be better then low track drops but that is a pretty low hurdle. Road drops with hoods, flats or bullhorns are a better option depending on what you need.
People put risers on bikes cause everyone else does not cause they are truly the best option.

I'm asking you a question based on what you said. I didn't say that that's how I have my bike set up. My question is asking you to describe your ideal height so that drop bars would be useful to me. I don't think you comprehend anything I'm saying.

Secondly, who the F*ck are you to tell anyone that one handlebar is better than the other? It's all personal preference. Saying that people put risers on bike cause everyone else does is just like saying that YOU ride a track bike on the street because everyone else does. My friend has been riding risers for the past 5 years, at a time when drops were the only thing you seen on the very few track bikes on the street, which is how I got put on the risers.

So why don't you explain something to me...Why are drops, flat bars, bullhorns, and everything else you mention better than riser bars?

Everyone please pay attention.

goldenskeletons 07-06-07 03:36 PM

y'know, i've never been interested in it, but now i really think i have to put my deep drop stem back on and get some risers! i think that setup would look pretty rad on the peloton. and HELL YEAH i'm gonna match my grips with my saddle!



thanks bike forums. i love you. sexually.

piratelove 07-06-07 03:42 PM

I haven't even seen that bike in real life, but I'm sure you could do anything to that bike and it would look dope as ****!

goldenskeletons 07-06-07 03:55 PM

lemme know when you're gonna be back in nyc! i'll bring it back out for sure.

loaf 07-06-07 03:59 PM

You can see farther in traffic on risers (all other things equal) but they aren't the be all end all in bars. I switch bars with my moods. There isn't anything like sprinting in a good set of drops, but I can't sprint all the time (nor do I want to) so I change my bars alll the time.

THESFGIANT 07-06-07 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by MIN
Risers bars are for downhill bikes and freeride bikes. Call me a purist.

My Ellsworth
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...worth_full.jpg

My Kona
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../Kona_Drop.jpg

Purist: A purist is one who desires that a particular item remain true to its essence and free from adulterating or diluting influences.
A purist would keep their track bike purely on the track...and w/o a break

MIN 07-06-07 04:11 PM

Brake, BTW.

I've said my piece, you've said yours. I'm done with you.


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