Bare metal or paint it
#1
Thread Starter
McNightrider
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Bare metal or paint it
Hey all,
As the title said I Striped all the paint off my frame, suprisingly it looks quite "rawww"..dunno if i should repaint it or just leave it as bare metal + clean coat (to prevent rust).
Question is: Leave it bare metal or Paint it lightish sky blue??
Pic:



Cheer,
Dub.
PS: sorry for crappy quality images, and I need to do alot of clean up before clear coat.
As the title said I Striped all the paint off my frame, suprisingly it looks quite "rawww"..dunno if i should repaint it or just leave it as bare metal + clean coat (to prevent rust).
Question is: Leave it bare metal or Paint it lightish sky blue??
Pic:



Cheer,
Dub.
PS: sorry for crappy quality images, and I need to do alot of clean up before clear coat.
#3
.
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
That looks like steel...which, at least in my part of the country, rusts like crazy when left in open air. I'd agree with Retem: if you want the 'raw' look, you should prolly coat it with something. I don't know if you can get matte clearcoat, but that might be an option.
EDIT: I missed the end of your post, there...looks like you're already planning to CC it. So...clean it up and go for it, eh.
EDIT: I missed the end of your post, there...looks like you're already planning to CC it. So...clean it up and go for it, eh.
#6
DC's Stray Cat
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
From: Alexandria, VA
Bikes: Gary Fisher Single Speed; Raleigh Conversion; Cayne Uno fixed
dremel tool with wire brushes
0000 steel wool
vinegar
rubbing alcohol
clean rags
use the steel brushes with a dremel and get the rest of the paint of of it
polish it up some with steel wool and a little vinegar. (vinegar will get rid of any tarnish)
wipe her down a few times really good with the rubbing alcohol and a clean rag each time. removes fingerprints, oils, dirt, ect and alcohol evaporates QUICKLY.
Shoot about 2-3 clear coats on it. Go light with the first 2.
Wear gloves especially when wiping it down. Prevents any oils from your hands getting on the frame which can show up BIG time once the clear coat cures.
EDIT you can get Matte clear coat at Lowes, Home Depot or a good hobby store or go to a store that sells Duplicolor auto spray paint and get the urethane clear coat....Try Walmart, Autozone, pepboys, ect. to get it
0000 steel wool
vinegar
rubbing alcohol
clean rags
use the steel brushes with a dremel and get the rest of the paint of of it
polish it up some with steel wool and a little vinegar. (vinegar will get rid of any tarnish)
wipe her down a few times really good with the rubbing alcohol and a clean rag each time. removes fingerprints, oils, dirt, ect and alcohol evaporates QUICKLY.
Shoot about 2-3 clear coats on it. Go light with the first 2.
Wear gloves especially when wiping it down. Prevents any oils from your hands getting on the frame which can show up BIG time once the clear coat cures.
EDIT you can get Matte clear coat at Lowes, Home Depot or a good hobby store or go to a store that sells Duplicolor auto spray paint and get the urethane clear coat....Try Walmart, Autozone, pepboys, ect. to get it
#7
!Newbie, !Senior Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: Philadelphia, PA
Bikes: IRO Mark V Track Bike, 1976 Schwinn Sprint Fixed Gear Conversion, 1975 Alan Aluminum Lugged Road Bike, Cannondale Touring, GanWell Road
I seem to recall a thread on this subject a while back in which a few people chimed in claiming that a clear coat was not enough to prevent rust. If I remember correctly, they said that after a few weeks rust started to develop *under* the clear coat. There were at least two or three people that corroborated this claim. I've never done it myself---nor do I understand the chemistry that might explain why regular paint would prevent rust but a clear coat alone would not---but I would recommend painting it to be safe.
#10
DC's Stray Cat
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
From: Alexandria, VA
Bikes: Gary Fisher Single Speed; Raleigh Conversion; Cayne Uno fixed
re
Not sure but I think the secret is to clearcoat ASAP after cleaning it up. I.E. Have everything ready and go from one process to the next and so on without stopping so there is no chance of a lot of oxidation of the metal as well as. Also I wonder if people use gloves when they did it. The oils in our bodies have salts which will start to eat in bare metal if left in contact. hence ALWAYS wear gloves when working with bare metal.
Also I think that the clearcoat that is used by some is not intended for a bike that is subjected to harsh conditions of riding, the elements, ect which is why I would go with urethane from say Dupli-color which is made for automobiles. They have a website. just google it.
Also I think that the clearcoat that is used by some is not intended for a bike that is subjected to harsh conditions of riding, the elements, ect which is why I would go with urethane from say Dupli-color which is made for automobiles. They have a website. just google it.
#11
Stinky McStinkface
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 943
Likes: 0
From: Pa.
Bikes: Clemente Custom(not built-up), TI Raleigh Record SS, VitaSprint Mixte SS, IRO S.E.(coming) Ibex Trophy Pro
also, if there is a color solution that allows the bare steel to show through, then clear coated... or a tinted clear coat. That would look fly.
__________________
Because, yeah... uh huh! Umm, yeah!
Because, yeah... uh huh! Umm, yeah!
Last edited by exfreewheeler; 07-18-07 at 09:54 AM.
#12
Senior Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Saint Paul, MN
Bikes: Marnati Track, Bridgestone 500 conversion
There was a fad a few years ago in the hot rod world to leave cars bare, looked cool. A lot of those guys left it raw and put a coat of WD-40 on it every few days. I would say raw would look way better than sky blue polar opposites really. However, this is probably not practical and the bike should be painted...
Last edited by bradberry00; 07-18-07 at 10:02 AM.
#13
Honking drivers see you
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 377
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Bikes: Fuji Track, KHS Witch Doctor, Balance AL 750, Tank Mod Trials Bike
Clear powdercoat would be my clear coat choice. Keep that thing oiled while it's all bare like that and you're still deciding.
#14
My bicycle is fixed
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,026
Likes: 2
From: Auckland, NZ
Bikes: '08 Surly Steamroller, '07 Surly Cross Check
I seem to recall a thread on this subject a while back in which a few people chimed in claiming that a clear coat was not enough to prevent rust. If I remember correctly, they said that after a few weeks rust started to develop *under* the clear coat. There were at least two or three people that corroborated this claim. I've never done it myself---nor do I understand the chemistry that might explain why regular paint would prevent rust but a clear coat alone would not---but I would recommend painting it to be safe.

(I hear debates about automotive finishes vs. powdercoat also -- we're sticking with automotive partly since that's what we know, and partly for other reasons that I can't articulate anywhere near as competently as my friend... so I digress.)
#15
re:member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 874
Likes: 0
From: Cracow, Poland
Bikes: unknown make TT bike, fixed; Romet Sport, gone; titanium Pinarello gone;Colnago with Campy C-Record/Super Record,on it's way; Funny Gianni Motta; Buehler track, Polrad track chrome; titanium MTB on 28'', fixed; Tri Wheeler, fixed
Clearcoating will not work. There was a post I can't find explaining why. Hard clear powdercoat applied by pros held well on a color layer below but didn't sustain on bare metal. After a year:
#16
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
Bikes: A light one, a heavy one, a yellow one and a rusty one.
Clear wet paint will not adhere properly to bare steel. It is meant to adhere to primer which is meant to adhere to the steel. Powder coating is a totally different process, and I've heard that clear powder adheres to the frame just as well as colored powder and offers the same protection.
I rattle canned a raw frame with clear over a year ago, and while it is has not gone crazy with rust, it appears that there is something going on between the frame and the clear coat. It is not the pretty raw steel that it was a year ago. I may not have prepped the frame the way it should habe been prepped. It was all done in my dimly lit garage, under the influence of beer.
I rattle canned a raw frame with clear over a year ago, and while it is has not gone crazy with rust, it appears that there is something going on between the frame and the clear coat. It is not the pretty raw steel that it was a year ago. I may not have prepped the frame the way it should habe been prepped. It was all done in my dimly lit garage, under the influence of beer.
#18
sorry to hijack the thread, but i hope someone chimes in so i don't have to start one of my own. i tried removing the paint on the back end of my aluminum frame. then, without having to sand i just applied some polish and this was the result. any opinions whether i should continue with the rest of the frame or just finish the back? sorry for the bad pic, the aluminum is actually very shiny!
#21
Thread Starter
McNightrider
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Seriously I have noidea what frame is that..but ppl said its either kuwakawa or Miyata. PPl said kywakawa never produce track frame then i guess its miyata as ppl said.
Yer here u go the picture..the fork been painted with so call "creative blue but more like a peral sky blue..:


It closer to whiteish blue..the photo aint justifying the colour.
Will paint the riser and with white oary grip..any suggestiong??
Yer here u go the picture..the fork been painted with so call "creative blue but more like a peral sky blue..:


It closer to whiteish blue..the photo aint justifying the colour.
Will paint the riser and with white oary grip..any suggestiong??
#23
if you want to leave the metal bare, i suggest a monthly hot oil treatment on the bare metal. Take mineral oil and heat it up fairly hot, put on leather gloves and grab a clean rag. Wad up the rag and dip in the boiling mineral oil, then wipe down the frame, getting every nook and cranny. do this several times then buff to a sheen with a clean rag. Works very well, the metal develops a sheen and does'nt rust.
#25
Paste Taster
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,392
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento, CA
Bikes: , Jury Bike, Moto Outcast 29, Spicer standard track frame and spicer custom steel sprint frame.





