? for anyone riding the 58cm.
any toe overlap with stock cranks? if so, how much?

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I don't have the answer to your question but toe overlap is such a non-issue it's not worth worrying over. Unless you never ride faster than 5mph.

It's only an issue when you start riding the bike at first. After a few hours, you get used to it.

I've got the 58cm - there is some toe overlap, but as the others have already mentioned it is really a non-issue 99% of the time. I think I felt my foot contact the front tire once, and that was at very slow (approaching trackstand) speed.

If you're interested I can try to take some pics tonight after work.

i have a 54 and there is a little toe overlap. no big deal though, and like everyone said, it's only an issue at very low speeds.

are the wheels on the hour nicer than on the kilo tt?

the fork on the kilo is nicer than the hour. both wheelsets are bleh.

do they both have formula hubs?

Nope. Plan on eventually replacing thw whole parts group.

my motobecane came with low flange formulas

I switched over to these as soon as i got my Kilo TT and i plan on doing the same when I receive the Windsor. Can't go wrong with formula hubs, DT spokes, and Mavic rims.

https://cgi.ebay.com/SUN-M13-TRACK-WH...QQcmdZViewItem

my windsor has low flange quandos, but maybe the new ones have formulas. that would be a big improvement.

umm they're sun rims?

58cm Windsor The Hour, Size 10 (US) Adidas Samba:

Side view:



Top view:



...and if you tip your foot just a little:

slight toe overlap is kind of fun actually. when ur going so slow and u hit ur foot ur like "Hey i just got toe overlap" but nothing really happens.

Oh sorry meant to type M13A. My bad.

what clips are those? i like the leather covers.

MKS Alloy toeclips

The ones shown in my photos are 'large' size, FYI



My Windsor (purchased August 2007) came with Formula hubs.

What size The hour should I get? I am 5'11.5" with an inseam of around 31 inch. Thanks.

hello again KFL- I'd go with a 56. Is there a shop in town that sells them? The best way to know for sure what size to get is to go ride a couple different sizes. But if you are going through BD I would go with a 56. Others agree?

The measurements the show on BD, is that in millimeters?

cm

but the standover is like 757 or some huge number. Do you think the 54cm might be too small for me? Cause my current bike, has a stand over of like 30 cm. I ride a 56cm Felt Z 90

Wow, my Windsor is 61cm (measures 58 ctc) & I even have 175mm Sugino cranks with no toe overlap. I wish I had some.

FWIW the stock Windsor hubs are Formulas, better than the stock Kilo hubs.