I thought the frame (and pricetag) looked very nice until I read the copy.

I don't know if this describes all track bikes and I'm whining about nothing, but I don't think the cycling world in general needs any more bikes that aren't actually made to be ridden.

I think he means it handles really well in the 15-25 mph range, as opposed to the 20-40mph range. It makes sense if you are going to be riding in the city.

Those bikes look like a really good option at that price point. Anyone have an idea of how long until they are available? It will be interesting to see a company make a nice simple (affordable) lugged frame and fork without too much of a gimmick.

i'm really interested in the wheelset. $149 including cog and lockring! wonder how nice it is... or how it compares to something like my Somax wheelset that cost a lot more...

There is a review of it on FixedGearGallery.com

the review basically says "It's a 149 dollar wheelset for sale by our sponsor. uh, cool?"

too bad you can't opt to get them machined.

Are they powdercoated or anodized?

nice, but i simply refuse to buy anything names "alien."

i dunno, i used to love the shiz out of my alien workshop boards.

I wonder how wide "widish" means? 28mm slicks? cyclocross tires?

edit: from the alien page "if you like us think flip-flop hubs are an eye-sore" huh?

those alien computers are pretty sick, too.

and yea, that wheelset has piqued my interest.

Meaning it's unstable and twitchy? Optimized for "ghettodrome"? I'm confused. I might be cruising along at <20 or drafting a city bus doing 30 and I'd like my bike to handle comfortably at either range....

Yeah the description is a little scary but the bike seems like it's worthy of a go.

I just ordered the wheelset, will do my best to post some form of a review after I get them and have a few miles on them.

the best part of the fgg review:
"Don't know about you, but it always bothered me having those fixed or free threads just spinning there empty. I'd even pondered making something to thread onto that waiting side. No problem with Alien's hubs. There's only threads on one side of these 120mm spaced hubs."

thats some grade-a shilling right there

lol

options ever bother you
?

then buy our product cause it dont have any!

yeah that was pretty stupid of FGG. I wonder how painful it was to write that and know that his bike with a flip-flop was sitting a few feet away.

so how is it not made to be ridden. would you do an alpine descent on your track bike? so what do you think your cadence would be at 45mph on the way down with a gear you could actually climb to the top with.

I think all this guy is trying to say is, "It has track geometry. It will feel a little different then road geometry."

anyone happen to see this on fgg? i dont know if it was posted in this thread before because i dont read this forum.
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/alien/wheelset/

I am getting that wheelset for sure.

Thats a really stupid combination. A half-assed lattempt at getting both track/street-cred and versatility leaves you with neither.

Any track frame is going to be twitchy and unstable at alpine descent type speeds. In fact any decent custom crit or time trial frame will be too. Many pelotons cruise at 30 MPH, and those speeds are easy to hit on a track too. When talking about alpine descents though, the speeds being referred to are 50 MPH+. I love my track frame and my crit frame, but they can be a handful on a two mile steep grade twisty descent. While in the city your speed range will generally be 0-30 MPH, in the mountains during a road race the speed range can easily be 0-50 MPH. This requires very different geometry. Thats why a lot of crit racers don't like TDF replica frames. That slack geometry is all wrong for a crit, but all right for long descents down mountains and long days in the saddle. In the City, my speed is predominantly in the 0-20 MPH range, and I need very sharp handling to navigate my way through traffic. Insomuch, traditional track geometry works very well for me. I'd be curious to see this frames geometry, as judging from my eye it looks about right for me. I especially like the shortened top tube. Great for my preferred heads up riding style, yet as mentioned in the ad it is all wrong for road racing.

i already emailed them about the geometry specs...