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A call to value conscious hipsters
Please go over to the road forum and chime in on the bikesdirect thread. They are proposing to offer some new product lines. It seems that they might be able to sell Reynolds 853 road frames for 400$. If they can do a road frame for 400$ why not convince them to offer a track frame of that tubing?
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect
8 - Ti cyclo cross bike with Ultegra or and lots of Ritchey Pro stuff -- $1500 (no disc brakes - so its legal)
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I chimed in with 3 requests only to visit thier site and find they already sell two of them. That Motobecane SS 29er looks pretty slick.
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It has already been decided. The carbon-fibre frames are made by Kestrel, which was recently bought by Fuji. Sounds like a good deal but wow, an 853 track frame would rule.
Originally Posted by bikesdirect.com
Items I can do:
Famous Brand CF frameset in RED for $648 {list 1899} or this frame built up with really nice parts; WCS cockpit & wheels; Ultegra shifters/der, FSA SLK carbon compact crank for $1748. [probably ships Feb 08] Famous Brand CF frameset in ORANGE for $848 {list $2199} or this frame built up with really nice parts; WCS cockpit & wheels; Ultegra shifters/der, FSA SLK carbon compact crank for $1948. [probably ships Feb 08] Motobecane FLY TEAM Ti for $1998 [this is the most insane deal on a XTR level Ti bike ever] [probably ships April 08] Motobecane le Champion Ti Road with Ultegra Shifter, Der, Ritchey Pro cockpit & DS wheels; cane creek brakes, and FSA engery compact for $1498 [probably ships April/May 08] Motobecane le Champion SL Ti Road with Ultegra SL ICE group {shift,der,crank, brakes], Ritchey WCS cockpit & procotol wheels; for $1898 [probably ships April/May 08] Motobecane le Champion SL Team Ti Road with DuraAce group {shift,der,crank, brakes], Ritchey WCS cockpit & procotol wheels; for $2298 [probably ships April/May 08] Vuelta CF Moncoq Clincher wheels 38mm -- $568 [either campy or shimano - I will bring both] [probably ships April 08] Vuelta CF Moncoq Tabular wheels 50mm -- $418 [either campy or shimano - I will bring both] [probably ships April 08] that is 10 things to pick from and I think it is a good selection |
That title really needs a hyphen. I was preparing to value conscious hipsters.
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Originally Posted by kemmer
(Post 5584772)
I chimed in with 3 requests only to visit thier site and find they already sell two of them. That Motobecane SS 29er looks pretty slick.
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Motobecane FLY TEAM Ti for $1998 [this is the most insane deal on a XTR level Ti bike ever] [probably ships April 08]
Good Jesus. I love bikesdirect. I promise this is the last time I post about a non-track frame on this thread. |
i don't get the "no disc brakes so it's legal" comment on the ti cross bike.
i mean, you can still put the mounts on there. it adds a lot of functionality and costs a few bucks and a few grams extra. plus disc brakes are legal in most u.s. cross races. |
Originally Posted by crushkilldstroy
(Post 5584641)
Why hello there Mr. Bikesdirect. May I buy you a drink?
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lugged track bike +1
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boo
singlespeed bikes are already cheap give me groups and frames for the price of groups or give me nothing |
I said this in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here. I think that 853 would be great as a group buy option, but as a regular offering, it misses the point somewhat. The road frame is logical, because the market is substantially larger, but for the average Bikes Direct track bike buyer, super lightweight high-grade steel would be complete overkill. They really should introduce a lugged steel track frame, a la Alien Bikes, in the $2-$300 range, but just keep it basic 4130 CroMo.
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Also, this sounds like I should start saving:
Motobecane le Champion Ti Road with Ultegra Shifter, Der, Ritchey Pro cockpit & DS wheels; cane creek brakes, and FSA engery compact for $1498 [probably ships April/May 08] |
Originally Posted by doofo
(Post 5585021)
boo
singlespeed bikes are already cheap give me groups and frames for the price of groups or give me nothing |
yeah then i wont have to deal with getting rid of a frame im embarrassed to ride
^ +1 |
Originally Posted by bonechilling
(Post 5585031)
I said this in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here. I think that 853 would be great as a group buy option, but as a regular offering, it misses the point somewhat. The road frame is logical, because the market is substantially larger, but for the average Bikes Direct track bike buyer, super lightweight high-grade steel would be complete overkill. They really should introduce a lugged steel track frame, a la Alien Bikes, in the $2-$300 range, but just keep it basic 4130 CroMo.
as an avg bikes direct track bike buyer, i disagree. i would love an 853 track frame from bd. |
Originally Posted by bonechilling
(Post 5585031)
I said this in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here. I think that 853 would be great as a group buy option, but as a regular offering, it misses the point somewhat. The road frame is logical, because the market is substantially larger, but for the average Bikes Direct track bike buyer, super lightweight high-grade steel would be complete overkill. They really should introduce a lugged steel track frame, a la Alien Bikes, in the $2-$300 range, but just keep it basic 4130 CroMo.
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For the record, in that thread lugs have been discussed and he's said he'd be amenable to a high quality (853 or 631) lugged frame, but it would add 200 to the price of a complete bike; I'd imagine that would go for a track frame too.
Hope springs eternal though. I'm crossing my fingers for the ti road bike myself. |
OK
From what I can tell; I maybe getting a free drink AND lots of people want higher grade track frame some want lugged Can I ask is it OK to go with function over fashion? tig welded is just as functional as lugs [many say better] but lugs look great Price of lugs is a lot let'sd put it this way 853 tigged is cheaper than lugged 520 so - given that what would be the choice top of the line 853 tig nice 520 with lugs or something else? [btw - 853 with lugs costs more than carbon fiber - and almost as much as Ti] seems I should really do the higher grade track now the question is which frame btw #2 - light stiff aluminum is less than 520 even - not expensive at all here I am open to ideas and drinks [LOL} |
853 plz.
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Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
(Post 5586091)
Can I ask
is it OK to go with function over fashion? welcome to bfssfg |
Aluminum is definitely the cheapest, lightest and most pragmatic, but since I think very few people intend to races these bikes anywhere other than the local alleycat, I don't think it'd be as popular.
I still think that lugged CroMo would win out over 853, for the type of buyer you're seeing (unless we're talking about a group buy). I'd really love to be wrong about this. What kind of price are we talking, anyway? |
Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com
(Post 5586091)
is it OK to go with function over fashion?
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+1 for 853 tigged
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