and the kid on the far right must eat a lot of bananas

lollerskates at yall


we all like riding bikes!
who caresssssssssssssssssssssss
dis is teh interw3bz

vawitt is right

from the looks of things track bikes won out over world of warcraft

be grateful folks

ahahahahahaha.

I <3 Bones

You win.

EPIC

hahahaha those kids are hillarious

dan bones, i love it. man this thread is silly. i hope you are still doing the rat pack hustle in january, i can't miss any mondays until then sadly

I had no idea that Harry Potter rode a pista.

Wow, Alex, you've reached a new low. Posting personal attacks on people who once concidered you a friend.

The day we start having lectures before alleycats is the day they become helmet-mandatory and have a police escort.

I think the guy on the banana bike lives in my apartment complex.

All I can say is that I have never once seen even a cat5 racer do a wheelie at the start of a crit, ever, and some of them are pretty inexperienced. I have never pulled the front wheel up starting a sprint on my track bike either. The point was that when you have a wheel in the air, you don't have full control, which is not something you want in a race.

eh, you're from alabama...

...and dutret's from georgia.

yeah, but you don't start a crit with a sprint. you don't even start clipped in, it's basically a rolling start.

It feels like 90% of people on here don't really know anything about what they're talking about (including me of course.)

That's a wrap folks. I think we can end the internet with that.

EDIT: I need a new sig, I got dibs on this.

Where was the personal attack? As far as I know you've never taken part in a road race, crit, track race, cross race or anything else that would have a "cat 5." I've never even seen you on a group ride before though I'm not sure you've never been on one. As far as I can tell you have no knowledge with which to be commenting on the safety or experience of cat 5 racers and the analogy you drew was bad as a result.

What's wrong with having a little lecture reminding people that they're there for fun before hand? From what people say here it's standard before alleycats in other cities. Given the type of bull**** I see people doing at your events not doing so cause it's one step towards making helmets mandatory and getting a police escort is ****ing stupid. People intentionally put other riders in danger cause they value winning more then they should. People slam into cars and ride away frequently cause they are riding faster then they are able to control their bikes sometimes they throw in a few curses for the driver because they are self entitled pricks who think only of themselves. Behavior like that is repugnant and I'm really disappointed that you would be so dead set against reminding people of such just because it's the type of thing that happens at a real race.

This was actually bothering me because I do consider you a friend and while I would expect that sort of attitude from the hess dogs you've always seemed a lot more reasonable than that.

Do you think that riding beyond your ability in a way that is dangerous to other riders and bystanders is laudable?
How about intentionally endangering others to get an advantage?
If so is that so fundamental to alley cats that trying to minimize it would ruin them?
If not:
Do you deny that such behavior is pretty common in alley cats including the ones you organize?
Do you not feel any responsibility to minimize how much of it you are unleashing on the city?

for what it's worth: before most of the alleycats i've participated in, the organizer(s) have made public comment to the effect of, ride smart, ride responsibly and know your limits. maybe it's because i've been racing races organized by people doing it long enough to roll their eyes at the balls-out cowboy business that can sometimes categorize neophyte enthusiasm.

additionally, i've had many conversations with other racers about a general code of etiquitte during races. work together. no sense in being so overcompetetive that you're a jerk.

like many sports, alleycats are as much (or more) about pitting you against yourself as they are competing with other people. people ought to help each other out on the street.

Jesus, so you're trying to say that bike races don't start with sprints? Okay, I've never seen a track race, TT, road race, or crit start with an experienced rider pulling the front wheel off the ground. I'm not saying it was intentional or not, but if it was, it was completely a jackass move. If it wasn't, it wasn't because "dude has mad torque," it was due to him leaning too far back, where he wouldn't get optimum power starting a sprint ANYWAY.

dude, i wish you wouldn't revive a thread if you're just gonna be murky.

what point are you trying to make?

cross and mountain races often do. but usually not crits.