Lots of track specific stuff coming out.

Deep V meets Cane Creek Hubs

900 US dollars for a wheelset!!

well how do you feel about the $1500 85mm endurance wheels? personally I think its super dumb that its a flip flop. no one riding those wheels needs to have another cog loaded. Seems silly to me.

Paying $900 for a set of wheels weighing in at almost 2 kilograms! Isn't that like 4.5 lbs?

$900 for aluminum clinchers? Who do they think buys this stuff?

And to further demonstrate just how much they don't get it, the hubs are fixed/free.

Interesting.

I ride with Cane Creek Volos:

https://www.canecreek.com/volos-track...er-wheels.html

They weigh less and cost less.

and look nicer too

i like those a lot.

Have you ever been to the track? People change their gearing all the time. Having two cogs on the wheel is not a bad thing. Switching between a pursuit and a points race would just mean flipping the wheel around.

I really like the Endurance wheels and would love to have a set but it's way beyond my budget.

You mean to tell me that a Deep section rim weighs more than a non-deep section rim?!? Sarcasm aside I too have those wheels (well, the tubular version) and I really like them.

infact, no I have not. However I was under the impression that the change would be done in the pits between races. I have been told that lots of riders don't use lock rings to make things easier/quicker, so I assumed they were changing stuff more than just flipping wheels. and aren't most high end off the shelf wheels single sided? I alsways assumed they were...

For nearly half the money, you could very easily built a set of track wheels that are just as aero and lighter.

also the regular aluminum ones look better and are only $575 https://www.canecreek.com/track-v-wheels.html

Wouldn't this get you thrown out at most tracks?

I hope so.

Some tracks, yes. But it's fairly common. I believe that's how/why the Rotafix method was developed.

Everything you have said is true. But that doesn't mean that a double-sided hub is useless. It will certainly make changing gearing a lot easier. Rather than have to take a cog off and put a new one on (even without a lockring), you just flip the wheel around. Granted it only gives you two different gear ratios but it's better than single-sided hubs. Also there are times when you don't have much time inbetween races, so you could set up your wheels to have the correct gear ratios before hand, and it would only take you a minute or two to switch.

I really don't know why most high end COTS wheels are single-sided.

No.

To elaborate, a track racer should never be back-pedaling hard enough to make a lockring necessary. If you are back-pedaling that hard you're doing something VERY wrong.

Right on. I was thinking about the whole lack of hard backpedaling thing, but my general concerns for safety took over. It just seems like one of those things that has obvious benefits in terms of safety that aren't so inconvenient as to have it be too much of a pain to work around.

OT, but I think it's safer NOT to run a lockring, so if something does happen, the cog simply spins off the wheel, and the rider can coast to the pit. With a lockring, the bike is more likely to throw the rider.

Somehow, I think that the chain would drop, and you'd lock up the rear wheel and end up skidding (best case), or else explode your chain (second best case), or else fall down and wreck your expensive-ass bike (worst case). Not that a dozen other things wouldn't have to be wrong in order for your cog to come off anyways...