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Old 12-02-07 | 11:53 PM
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So, a guy I know has one LeVel rear hub in like new condition that he will sell for $50, is that worth it? I saw online that they go for around $180. The only thing is I hear they are really heavy and don't they take a special cog?
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Old 12-03-07 | 12:00 AM
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let me put it this way: i'll take it if you don't want it...

and for your edumacation: https://www.levelcomponents.com/tech.html

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Old 12-03-07 | 12:02 AM
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put simply, yes.
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Old 12-03-07 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jdeane4
So, a guy I know has one LeVel rear hub in like new condition that he will sell for $50, is that worth it? I saw online that they go for around $180. The only thing is I hear they are really heavy and don't they take a special cog?
No it's not. Tell him to sell it to me.
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Old 12-03-07 | 12:47 AM
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foreals for 50 id take that in a heart beat.. if you want to sell it to me with a 17t cog for $75 ill take it...
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Old 12-03-07 | 10:21 AM
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i really like my level hub and would pay more than 50 for another!

speaking of level hubs, anyone know where you can get a 1/8" cog for these crazy things?

i am about due for a new one and would like to size up my drivetrain from 3/32 to 1/8.
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Old 12-03-07 | 10:26 AM
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i am about due for a new one and would like to size up my drivetrain from 3/32 to 1/8.
If you can't locate one, just run a 1/8" chain on the 3/32 cog, it works fine.
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Old 12-03-07 | 11:31 AM
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If you can't locate one, just run a 1/8" chain on the 3/32 cog, it works fine.
hey it is a small internet.

i was the tall guy (max) in the orange trophy jersey shivering next to you yesterday at punkbike btw!

good times!!!!!

currently i am just riding fixed on the street but watching you and jason mix it up yesterday has given me the urge to try to maybe "up my gamesmanship" and try to little fixed offroad!

maybe i will just order up a new 3/32nds.
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Old 12-03-07 | 12:31 PM
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hey it is a small internet.

i was the tall guy (max) in the orange trophy jersey shivering next to you yesterday at punkbike btw!

good times!!!!!

currently i am just riding fixed on the street but watching you and jason mix it up yesterday has given me the urge to try to maybe "up my gamesmanship" and try to little fixed offroad!

maybe i will just order up a new 3/32nds.
Good to put a name with a face. Had a blast out there yesterday. Your bike is in this photo, right?

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Old 12-03-07 | 04:36 PM
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Your bike is in this photo, right?
yep.

yeah those guys at dirtrag know how to put on a quality event. it was so nice to scome back to some good hot homemade food after all of that....

nice to meet you!
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Old 12-03-07 | 04:58 PM
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Old 12-03-07 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by max-a-mill
i really like my level hub and would pay more than 50 for another!

speaking of level hubs, anyone know where you can get a 1/8" cog for these crazy things?
That's one inconvenience of the Level hubs. A new sprocket will cost you almost as that second hand hub (if you get it), and that is if the Level guys feel like selling you one. And don't be so sure you'll end up buying the sprocket you rally want. If Level doesn't make 1(8" sprockets, you will pretty much never have one.

Almost? Or should I have said more!?
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Old 12-03-07 | 11:38 PM
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My bad guys, another friend actually gave me the wrong info. The guy with the hub only has a front LeVel hub that he is willing to part with for $30. Should I still do it?
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Old 12-04-07 | 07:15 AM
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My bad guys, another friend actually gave me the wrong info. The guy with the hub only has a front LeVel hub that he is willing to part with for $30. Should I still do it?
I have no idea what kind of bearings and materials Level uses in their hubs. Their front hubs are in no way different from any other front hub, eccept for manufacturing quality. Presumibly they make very good stuff in general, so I would say that $30 for a front Level hub is a good idea. You are not forced to pay $56 for a sprocket.
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Old 12-04-07 | 10:41 AM
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No.
That thing looks like it weighs a ton and cheap, good and light front hubs are available.
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Old 12-04-07 | 11:41 AM
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Well, I don't mind 150g of difference, especially in the hub. But I agree that there are very good and ligher front hubs,even at $30 (the cheaper Shimano hubs are great).

What worries me most about Level is not so much that a sprocket costs you more than $50 and you have no second source, no, what worries me about them is that they have this whole amateurish, we-are-gonna-close-shop-any-day-now look about them. Check out their webiste: https://www.levelcomponents.com/ You want a description of their products, in alphabetical or any other order? Well, you can't have it. And that's not because Level has so many products.

And then, on the front page you have


Look here.

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Scott and Reed



"Scott and Reed"? WTF is that supposed to mean? Is that reassuring to anyone? If you had a lobotomy, then yeah, that's reassuring. If not, you'd think of running as fast as possible FROM this company.
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Old 12-04-07 | 05:38 PM
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ummm..... where's the link to your website and your innovative patent pending new design?

Reed and Scott are real people, mange. They work very hard getting their products out there in the world and have been very dedicated and consistent over the past three plus years at building this business from what is, at least to me, an intriguing new design idea. If you are buying hubs, talk to them. If you are looking for a web designer, well I suggest you go elsewhere, but you already know that....
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Old 12-04-07 | 06:24 PM
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Reed and Scott are real people, mange. They work very hard getting their products out there in the world and have been very dedicated and consistent over the past three plus years at building this business from what is, at least to me, an intriguing new design idea. If you are buying hubs, talk to them. If you are looking for a web designer, well I suggest you go elsewhere, but you already know that....
Sure. And now they seem to be into submarine robots. I admit, robotics seems a much more interesting activity than fabricating hubs and developing accessories for them. No wonder neither the Level disk rotor nor their freewheel solution got anywhere from the design board. You say they work very hard to get their products out there? The only thing that showed any development at all on their website, is that undersea robot project, so I conclude that the hub business is on the way out. There's only so much two people can do. And if two people can't do or won't do something, well, it won't get done. For those who invested in their hubs, it may be time to buy up those inexpensive sprockets to make for a lifetime supply.

Lesson: it's always a good idea to avoid proprietary solutions.
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Old 12-04-07 | 06:59 PM
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My bad guys, another friend actually gave me the wrong info. The guy with the hub only has a front LeVel hub that he is willing to part with for $30. Should I still do it?
Absolutely not. Please post contact information for this guy, so I can ummmm... give him a piece of my mind for trying to rip you off!!!
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