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Old 01-03-09, 11:52 PM
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looks uncomfortable for your hands/wrists.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
looks uncomfortable for your hands/wrists.
and everything else that contacts the bike
tarck?
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im starting to think people dont actually ride these "hype" bikes for any period of time or outside of parking lots.
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Those drops drop like double D's.
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I love double D's.
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Originally Posted by queerpunk
In the late winter or early spring, Saturday morning training sessions led by John Campo will begin.
Opening Weekend is usually in late April, and thereafter, most of the racing is the Wednesday Night Twilight Series. in '08 this was done on two nights - Tuesday night (Women, Juniors, and Masters fields) and Wednesday (open cat 1/2/3, 4, and 5 fields). During the summer there are a handful of other race days, too - this past year there was a match sprint competition, a VeloCity, Labor Day open meet, State Track Championships, etc. All the info will be on kissena.info/track, but since we're all battening down the hatches for winter, it will be a while.

You should definitely come check it out. Kissena is mad friendly. It's definitely worth it to throw your hat in and give racing a shot, too.
Good to know! I'll definitely make it out to some races this coming season.

I've always wanted to try my hand at racing, but it's so intimidating! I feel like I'm not in the shape I'd need to be to race.
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Try it anyway! Kissena is a really friendly scene, and you get to watch a lot of races happen over and over again so you learn fast. If you're not in shape, you will be soon after wednesday night races and saturday morning training sessions.
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Originally Posted by Patricky
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That saddle angle screams that the stem and top tube are too long for you.
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Originally Posted by bartonfink
OK.

I'm sure we all remember the cranky fella who originally posted this 3Rensho as his own, on two threads - with all the ensuing unpleasantness, argumentation and deleted byplay. Apparently, he doesn't actually own it. It's for sale on the Chicago Craigslist. He also seems to have nuked his log-in. Interesting.

A beautiful bike in any case. $7500 - for those whose trust funds became accessible on January 1st.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/499163-3rensho-keirin-track-racing-bicycle-7500-chicago.html
actually it is his bike. the dude on craigslist's posting was deleted... check it out.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
im starting to think people dont actually ride these "hype" bikes for any period of time or outside of parking lots.

Calm down man it okay. I got the new bars and realized the stem is to long. In the mean time waiting till I can actually get a new stem my saddle angle has to be like that so I can ride. Sorry Geordi Laforge
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Originally Posted by Saddle Up
That saddle angle screams that the stem and top tube are too long for you.

Probably because the stem and top tube are to long
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you'll have to train and learn what you're doing before allowed to race. you'd be a dangerous liability to your health and the health of others to race without knowing the basics.
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Definite saddle angle fail on the white bike. I'd like to know what kind of rim that is on the rear tho.
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why does everyone complain about every one else's saddle angle? its not like its hard to tell if its right for you when your riding and if it is uncomfortable its not exactly the type of thing that you check a forum to see how to fix. chances are if someone has an odd looking saddle angle its because its what they like or their trying something different out.
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Originally Posted by B:H Pusher
why does everyone complain about every one else's saddle angle? its not like its hard to tell if its right for you when your riding and if it is uncomfortable its not exactly the type of thing that you check a forum to see how to fix. chances are if someone has an odd looking saddle angle its because its what they like or their trying something different out.
sometimes people make minor adjustments that others might find uncomfortable even though it works for the rider - that is generally true. but in the case of saddle angles like the above picture, there is no possible way for that to be comfortable (beyond riding only a mile or around a parking lot) for anyone.

I doubt this is the case of "trying something different out" - why would someone go through the trouble of posing their bicycles, taking pictures from several different angles, uploading them onto a computer and then online, and then posting them in a thread on a nerdy bicycle forum when something as rudimentary and essential as saddle position has yet to be addressed?

I am guessing the rider is new to bicycles or simply does not ride that often/much. I think the latter is probably true for most of the latest influx of "fixie" riders-consumers - they buy uncomfortable, impractical bikes to be a part of the trend and make purchased based soley on aesthetic value and dont actually ride distances all that much where these flaws become quite noticeable in the form of hand/wrist/shoulder/leg/neck/back pain.

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I'll never understand how that sort of saddle angle could be considered aesthetic. It looks fawkin stupid, on any bike.
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Originally Posted by B:H Pusher
why does everyone complain about every one else's saddle angle? its not like its hard to tell if its right for you when your riding and if it is uncomfortable its not exactly the type of thing that you check a forum to see how to fix. chances are if someone has an odd looking saddle angle its because its what they like or their trying something different out.
i dont care WHO the person is..... a saddle pointed down at the ground like that is just stupid.
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
im starting to think people dont actually ride these "hype" bikes for any period of time or outside of parking lots.
Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
sometimes people make minor adjustments that others might find uncomfortable even though it works for the rider - that is generally true. but in the case of saddle angles like the above picture, there is no possible way for that to be comfortable (beyond riding only a mile or around a parking lot) for anyone.

I doubt this is the case of "trying something different out" - why would someone go through the trouble of posing their bicycles, taking pictures from several different angles, uploading them onto a computer and then online, and then posting them in a thread on a nerdy bicycle forum when something as rudimentary and essential as saddle position has yet to be addressed?

I am guessing the rider is new to bicycles or simply does not ride that often/much. I think the latter is probably true for most of the latest influx of "fixie" riders-consumers - they buy uncomfortable, impractical bikes to be a part of the trend and make purchased based soley on aesthetic value and dont actually ride distances all that much where these flaws become quite noticeable in the form of hand/wrist/shoulder/leg/neck/back pain.
Apparently while spewing your psuedo bike expert attack you failed to notice basic signs of use on the bike, like the saddle turning blue from the friction against his jeans, or the very obvious wear on the rear tire. While the bike is clearly set up poorly, you're so busy projecting your own assumptions about how much less awesome this guy is than you that you're missing some pretty clear indicators that you're wrong. Stop being an idiot.
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I guess it's also impossible that he bought that saddle used, and probably from someone who had it at a correct angle.
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Originally Posted by sake bomb
I guess it's also impossible that he bought that saddle used, and probably from someone who had it at a correct angle.
Maybe he bought the entire bike used from someone who only rode it in parking lots, and THAT person bought the saddle used, but the original poster hasn't had a chance to adjust the saddle angle because he's been too busy winning championships in track racing on his other bike.

Who the **** knows? The point is you're a jackass if you're going to project your own biased assumptions so hard that you're now claiming to know how and why someone rides their bike based on internet pictures.
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Originally Posted by ddac
What are training sessions? I'm assuming all you need is fixed gear bike with drop handlebars and you'll be allowed on the track? Is there a fee?

Being a newbie at a track, do you have any tips?
Like any USCF/USAC event, there are fees to register for races. But, since the Kissena Velodrome is on a public park, there are no fees to use it any other time. Or, for that matter, rules.

Race rules - fixed gear, drop handlebars WITH PLUGS. This is important. Conversions are OK at Kissena. Brakes are not, as on any velodrome.

Training sessions - informal, educational. Led by John Campo, a thoroughly awesome dude. Varies from week to week and I can't speak to their specific content because I've never made it out to KV on a Saturday morning in the spring or summer.

Tips - go out! Learn with your eyes. Read about track racing (different formats), watch some youtube videos, but most of all go out to the track and see what the races are like. Join a race. Ride conservatively, especially at first (few races are worth serious health risks). Fit on your bike well. Learn how to spin fast. Hold your line, learn how to communicate with other riders in a close pack. Ask questions - why did that rider do that? What is the blue line for? What the hell is going on in this race?

When track racing kicks off again in April I'll no doubt post a thread encouraging people to come out and race and providing some basic resources for at-home education. But there's no substitute for experience. And, by the way, the hardest part about racing is paying the entry fee and getting to the starting line.
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maybe he only ever rides it up hill?
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Originally Posted by carbonjockey
maybe he only ever rides it up hill?
hahaha, nice
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you peeps are brutal! people should be seriously cautioned before posting pics of their bike in this thread. it's not really a place of open-mindedness is it?

i'm new here, & i'll be damned before i post any pics of my own sweet sugar. i can just imagine it.
on second thought...



i think the seat angle is really comfy.
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Bar change to see how things feel. Risers actually make the handling a bit quicker, even though it's already a quick ride (no I don't do bar spins)
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