Getting a new fork on my fix
 

I need a new fork (700, threadless, 1'') for my work bike but I never bought any replacement fork. I ride the original fork on all of my other bikes. I thought that maybe someone as a suggestion of the type of fork I should get and why. My frame is lugged steel so I guess putting a carbon fork on that wouldn't be very intelligent since I don't rally count every grams. I was considering straight blade alluminum but I don't know what are the advantage considering the smoothness of the ride, the weight and the durability of a fork like that. Thank you for helping out.

carbon, because it's better. anyone who disagrees is probably with the terrorists.

but seriously, it's not about the weight savings. carbon forks make your ride feel smooth and soft, like sex with an underaged virgin.

aluminum forks are lame... go steel or carbon.

and by steel or carbon, he means carbon.

ok, and do you have anything to suggest, any brands. I want something not too expensive, should I go with carbon blades/steel stearer or full carbon. Also I got hit by a car with a carbon road bike and one of the blade broke in two. I though that a steel fork would have resist the impact. I don't plan on getting hit by cars often but I often drop sidewalks and the road in quebec are in very bad condition even downtown. They are full of waht we call ''nid de poule'' http://nouvelles.autonet.ca/FR/Nouve...s_de_poule.jpg

Would you still suggest carbon instead of steel?

Do you know the head angle and the rake of the existing/old fork? How big a frame is it?

The bike is a 80's road conversion so it was originally made for 27'' wheels. It as a pretty good geometry since I weld track dropouts to make it tighter with 700. The top tube is going down toward the front of the bike, like 8 degrees with a 700 fork. And the head tube is something like 7 degrees And is very very short for a 54 cm bike, it is like 9-10 cm long. The old fork was an 27'' bent fork, not very good. A straight blade would fit on it and would be prefered to have the front wheel as close as possible to the frame.

If I understand the rake/trail concept correctly, if you are effectively steepening the head angle with a shorter fork that fork should have less rake.

The only threadless 1" steel straight blade fork that comes to mind is Colnago. There have been a few NOS ones posted on ebay recently. Not cheap though.

If you found a threaded fork with a long enough steerer you could also cut it below the theaded section.

Since you are not counting grams, and i gather looking for something simple may i recommend the nashbar carbon fork Nash bar carbon fork

The picture on the site does not do it justice, Its actually quite a nice simple looking fork, The only branding is on the steerer tube, I say go with something Like that, or get a stock fork off a KHS flite/Kilo TT but be warned they are heavy. That is really the reason why i am making an argument for carbon because you are not going to get As light or as Smooth for anything less than twice what you frame is worth. I personally was amazed how stiff/smooth the nashbar fork is for the grand sum of 80$ check the coupon forum and wait for a 20% or free shipping coupon, And just because a Fork is straight blade does not mean is has No rake, the rake is just at the steertube/fork crown instead of in the blades, avoid aluminum forks like the plague, there is a reason why almost no one rides them

SOMA makes a nice threadless
flat crown steel fork--Tange
Prestige steel. In red, black
or chrome. http://store.somafab.com/lutrfo.html

sexxxxxxxxxy chrome.

Same as Kilo/flite fork and for a 120. you could go carbon steerer. If you want that Fork, Post a wanted add on CL, i am sure you could find one for 50$, you would probably have to paint it yourself it you want it match. All though i have to admit the chrome is Sexy

Ok that Nashbar fork seems perfect, somebody is selling a fork similar to that one. It is a Weyless, I don't know if it is as good as this one though. He's asking 50$ for it. I'll see what I can order at my LBS and ask them what they think about that Nashbar. Thanks a lot.

yeah, the all-chrome one is sick.

Hahah, you should see my frame, I sand all the rusty areas to bare metal and just leave it like that before putting a clear coat on it. So it is like original paint green, bare steel and orange primer spots. Montreal is near the top of the bike theif cities list. The goal is to make it as ugly as possible.

And craigslist is not an option since there is nothing right now in my region, there is like 3 feet of snow outside so nobody post anything in the montreal bike category.

For ****s sake. If you're not a weight weenie, just get a steel fork. Why would anyone voluntarily add a cheap plastic fork on their bike? The only advantage carbon has over steel is weight savings.

Get a steel fork if you're going to be riding around the city, hopping off of curbs, running into things, and when you smack into that huge pothole you won't have to worry about the carbon or alu being compromised.

Simply Not true, My nashbar carbon fork Rides a Lot smoother and stiffer than my Stock steel one, Further more, When carbon can be for less than a nice lugged fork why not, Granted a cheap uni-crown steel one could be had on nashbar or from the LBS for less. Please explain to me why "cheap plastic" is better than cheap steel, Do not assume because it's made out of metal it's as strong/stronger Stop with your baseless accusations

I don't know about you, but i trust a 75$ carbon fork more than a 3$ fork

Baseless accusations? I don't think so. A cheap carbon fork is much worse than a cheap steel fork. And by cheap I mean, something you would find in a dumpster would be better than your cheap carbon fork.

Do you know why that $75 "carbon" fork has an AL or steel steerer? I would trust that $3 fork before i'll trust your $75 carbon fork of unknown origin and quality. Carbon forks that are quality exist, but not for $75, and certainly not 100% carbon forks, carbon legs don't count.

Thanks a lot, i'm all confused now.

Add: Kol.klink is right on the point of comfort and stiffness. There is still a very large difference in terms of cost between a quality steel fork and a carbon one. For a work bike as a messenger, carbon fork doesn't make sense.

1" Threadless is a bad idea all around - especially going carbon. Instead of rewriting Sheldons post i'll link to it instead:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...75&postcount=3

Thanks a lot, i'm all confused now.

But what I've understand is that, it's only a choice, some people prefer steel and some prefer carbon. And no one likes aluminum. I guess I'll just have to figure out by myself by trying both to find out.

Well, IMHO here's the deal. The points about carbon are well taken. Good carbon is silky smooth
and absorbs a lot of road vibration. Carbon can also be designed to be tough--some MTB forks
are carbon. But I don't know if carbon road ot track forks are intended for the abuse of lots of rough
urban riding--they may be. Quality carbon forks are fine 99.9999 percent of the time. But
when they fail they can fail catastrophically. They don't like abuse. Good carbon forks are also
expensive. Google says that carbon mtn forks are the price of a low end but decent steel frame.
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...-8&sa=N&tab=wf
yikes

Steel absorbs road vibration, is tougher than carbon and is less expensive. Steel is also classic.
Steel won't be as smooth as carbon. I say go for steel so you don't worry about catastrophic failures but the haters will turn into this an either or argument. . .

Get a carbon fork. If you're "afraid" it will break, get a steel one.

Pure claptrap until you produce a factual argument. your just slagging a product you have not owned and i imagine have not even ridden.

A cheap steel fork or something out of a dumpster is of "unknown quality and origin". Your logic there confuses me.

What is so bad about about Aluminum steer tubes, both easton and columbus make carbon forks with aluminum steer tubes? so i don't see why they don't "count"

it does not really say why 1" threadless is a bad idea Other than mentioning its not well supported(meaning not many people make forks in the size) its more about potential rake(something to consider whenever you change a fork) issues . and improper placement of a quill stem on a 1" threaded set up. again no real Evidence is to why 1"threaless is bad


I will also admit that for the first 1000K or so i was a bit weary of my cheap carbon fork. but I know trust it and ride it hard riding off curbs and the like. You seem to forget they would not make/sell these things if they broke, a lot. take a look at what happened with spinergy with the REV-x's. they failed so they stopped making them. This fork is has been sold under 3 different brand names that i know of (nashbar,axiom,weyless). do you think narbar would sell them if they got many complaints of failure.

None of you have Provided any evidence is why these forks would not be any good other than they are inexpensive and do not have a brand name on them.

Anyways go carbon, Ride it and be happy. i'm glad i did

they haven't because they can't.
operator can't wrap his feeble little mind around the idea of something as strong as modern carbon not being metal.
add that to the fact that he's never actually ridden carbon, and you have the posts he's added to this thread.

Can someone help me find a nice carbon for for my kilo tt? please? also what else would i need to convert it to threadless? i hate my threaded setup.

threadless fork and a Threadless head set (lbs will have cheaper ones)

Am I the only one concerned about how the bike will actually handle? Who ****ing cares about materials. If the OP doesn't want carbon, then please take the carbon debate elsewhere.