whats the difference?
03-03-08 | 09:05 PM
#3
Inebriated Ninja Hatters
Joined: Nov 2007
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Mercier Kilo TT
Frame Mercier Custom Double Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly with Track Dropout, Externally butted seat tube
Fork Mercier Custom Drawn Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly 1 inch steerer with custom brazed flat crown
Headset Sealed Bearing 1 inch
Crankset TruVativ Touro, 48T
Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge 103mm
Pedals WellGo Aluminum alloy Road with toe clips and straps
Front Derailleur N/A
Rear Derailleur N/A
Shifters N/A
Cog 16T Fixed Gear (rear hub has fixed cog on one side, you can put your own single speed freewheel on the other side)
Chain KMC Z410
Hubs TrackSpec High Flange Aluminum, sealed bearings
Spokes Stainless
Rims 36H Aluminum Aero Section Track DoubleWall
Tires Kenda K191 700x23c high pressure road
Brakes N/A
Brake Levers N/A
Handlebar Butted 6061 Aluminum Anatomical Bend
Stem Quill Forged/Welded Aluminum, O degree, Removable Clamp, Silver Finish
Tape/Grip Deluxe Cork
Saddle SL Turbo Style Racing, Cromoly Rail
Seat Post SL Micro Adjust Aluminum 250mm
Seat Clamp Mercier SL Machined Aluminum
Motobecane Messenger Track
Frame Motobecane Custom Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly with Track Dropout, water bottle mount, Rear Rack brazeons
Fork Motobecane Custom Drawn Triple Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly Aero Road
Headset Sealed Bearing
Crankset TruVativ Touro, 48T
Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge 103mm
Pedals WellGo Road w/clips and straps
Front Derailleur N/A
Rear Derailleur N/A
Shifters N/A
Cassette/Freewheel 16T Fixed Gear or Flip and add your Freewheel FREE BONUS FREEWHEEL
Chain KMC Z410 3/32
Hubs TrackSpec Black Anodized Aluminum FLIPFLOP rear, sealed precision bearings
Spokes Double Butted Stainless
Rims 32H DRX2000 Aero Track DoubleWall, black anodized
Tires Kenda K191 700x23c
Brakes FREE PAIR - Road Aluminum Calipers
Brake Levers Classic Road Aluminum
Handlebar Butted 6061 Aluminum Anatomical Bend
Stem Forged/Welded Aluminum, O degree, Removable Clamp, Black Finish
Tape/Grip Deluxe Cork
Saddle SL Turbo Style Racing, Cromoly Rail
Seat Post SL Micro Adjust Aluminum 250mm X 27.2mm
Seat Clamp Motobecane SL Machined Aluminum
Have fun.
Frame Mercier Custom Double Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly with Track Dropout, Externally butted seat tube
Fork Mercier Custom Drawn Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly 1 inch steerer with custom brazed flat crown
Headset Sealed Bearing 1 inch
Crankset TruVativ Touro, 48T
Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge 103mm
Pedals WellGo Aluminum alloy Road with toe clips and straps
Front Derailleur N/A
Rear Derailleur N/A
Shifters N/A
Cog 16T Fixed Gear (rear hub has fixed cog on one side, you can put your own single speed freewheel on the other side)
Chain KMC Z410
Hubs TrackSpec High Flange Aluminum, sealed bearings
Spokes Stainless
Rims 36H Aluminum Aero Section Track DoubleWall
Tires Kenda K191 700x23c high pressure road
Brakes N/A
Brake Levers N/A
Handlebar Butted 6061 Aluminum Anatomical Bend
Stem Quill Forged/Welded Aluminum, O degree, Removable Clamp, Silver Finish
Tape/Grip Deluxe Cork
Saddle SL Turbo Style Racing, Cromoly Rail
Seat Post SL Micro Adjust Aluminum 250mm
Seat Clamp Mercier SL Machined Aluminum
Motobecane Messenger Track
Frame Motobecane Custom Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly with Track Dropout, water bottle mount, Rear Rack brazeons
Fork Motobecane Custom Drawn Triple Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly Aero Road
Headset Sealed Bearing
Crankset TruVativ Touro, 48T
Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge 103mm
Pedals WellGo Road w/clips and straps
Front Derailleur N/A
Rear Derailleur N/A
Shifters N/A
Cassette/Freewheel 16T Fixed Gear or Flip and add your Freewheel FREE BONUS FREEWHEEL
Chain KMC Z410 3/32
Hubs TrackSpec Black Anodized Aluminum FLIPFLOP rear, sealed precision bearings
Spokes Double Butted Stainless
Rims 32H DRX2000 Aero Track DoubleWall, black anodized
Tires Kenda K191 700x23c
Brakes FREE PAIR - Road Aluminum Calipers
Brake Levers Classic Road Aluminum
Handlebar Butted 6061 Aluminum Anatomical Bend
Stem Forged/Welded Aluminum, O degree, Removable Clamp, Black Finish
Tape/Grip Deluxe Cork
Saddle SL Turbo Style Racing, Cromoly Rail
Seat Post SL Micro Adjust Aluminum 250mm X 27.2mm
Seat Clamp Motobecane SL Machined Aluminum
Have fun.
03-03-08 | 10:26 PM
#6
cab horn
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 28,353
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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
03-03-08 | 10:49 PM
#7
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,212
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d'Huez 2005
well i am going to be commuting on this bike i get...so should i go with the messenger? It looks the frame is a little more spread out, so maybe less toe overlap?
04-13-08 | 08:17 PM
#8
New Old Stock
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 10
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From: the Bean
Bump
I'd love to hear a real answer to this too, since I'm looking at the same two. My impression is that the Kilo has more aggressive geometry which might make it a rough ride on my city's nasty streets; but is the reynolds tubing and nicer fork worth it? Plus, all the components are the same, but the kilo's are chrome?
I'd love to hear a real answer to this too, since I'm looking at the same two. My impression is that the Kilo has more aggressive geometry which might make it a rough ride on my city's nasty streets; but is the reynolds tubing and nicer fork worth it? Plus, all the components are the same, but the kilo's are chrome?
04-13-08 | 10:21 PM
#11
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 192
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From: Chicago
Very true but I really enjoy my Moto. I chose the Moto over the Kilo because of the brakes and because of the Kilo's geo.
Both seem to come with dodgy parts. I trashed the bar, pedals, clips, straps, cog/lockring, tires and tubes in about a weeks worth of ownership. I'd recommend the same to anyone planning on buying the Moto. Also...the paint chips really easily.
Overall opinion, great intro fixie...not perfect but far from being a Wal-Mart bike.
and I get a lot of compliments from people who don't know what they are talking about.
Old shot from after a couple days of ownership. Bars are taped, b-17, cut that brake cable, and others.
Both seem to come with dodgy parts. I trashed the bar, pedals, clips, straps, cog/lockring, tires and tubes in about a weeks worth of ownership. I'd recommend the same to anyone planning on buying the Moto. Also...the paint chips really easily.
Overall opinion, great intro fixie...not perfect but far from being a Wal-Mart bike.
and I get a lot of compliments from people who don't know what they are talking about.
Old shot from after a couple days of ownership. Bars are taped, b-17, cut that brake cable, and others.
