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Peedtm 03-11-08 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ki (Post 6322555)
one per side, so technically two.

ps, i have no idea how this works whatsoever. voodoo science imo, but i still chose my ratio (47x16) because patch calculators told me it gives 16. best combo in my desired gearinch range.

if you drop to a 47 from a 48 (hardly noticeable), you'll increase your skid patches sixteen times.

If you have 48X16, your wheel will make 3 revolutions everytime your cranks make 1 revolution. Expand from there.

Peedtm 03-11-08 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by fetch (Post 6322591)
don't forget to rotate you wheel.

as in, take it off the bike, turn it a bit then put it back on. it'll change the skid patch position so your tire lasts longer. ya know?

No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

sp00ki 03-11-08 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by hudsong (Post 6322635)
Thanks man. These cranks are kinda long too, I always clip them on corners, so this upgrade will be good in more than one way. One issue I'm having is finding 47t chainrings and cranks... so maybe I'll switch my back cog to a 17...


sugino zen comes in 47, btw.

actually:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

BLACK BIKE 03-11-08 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by NitroPye (Post 6318900)
You picked the wrong night kimosabe...


(Gatorskins + skid patch calculator)
http://www.optionnz.com/users/afs/i1/FixedRatio.jpg

This should be a sticky!

sp00ki 03-11-08 01:16 PM

waaaaay better:
http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.jnlp
it's java, and thus platform independent. i have it on my linux and windows systems; my girlfriend has it on her mac. i reference it once a week.

fetch 03-11-08 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Peedtm (Post 6322712)
No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

what?

i love you.

NitroPye 03-11-08 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ki (Post 6322779)
waaaaay better:
http://software.bareknucklebrigade.com/rabbit.jnlp
it's java, and thus platform independent. i have it on my linux and windows systems; my girlfriend has it on her mac. i reference it once a week.

Or you could just.... look at the chart.

sp00ki 03-11-08 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by NitroPye (Post 6322791)
Or you could just.... look at the chart.

the chart gives you like 1/8 the information the rabbit util does.
it gives you a gearinch calculator, a table for rpm = mph (and km/h) based on selected gear ratio, a visual depiction on your skidpatch(es) with coresponding revolution, and much more info.
it's quite simply a much more complete resource for getting practical information about your drivetrain.

click the link, you'll see what i mean.

d3fold 03-11-08 02:58 PM

Try the Soma everwear. COG did a write up on them, said they were great for skidding.

NitroPye 03-11-08 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by sp00ki (Post 6322848)
the chart gives you like 1/8 the information the rabbit util does.
it gives you a gearinch calculator, a table for rpm = mph (and km/h) based on selected gear ratio, a visual depiction on your skidpatch(es) with coresponding revolution, and much more info.
it's quite simply a much more complete resource for getting practical information about your drivetrain.

click the link, you'll see what i mean.

I know I was just giving you **** ;)

You in a dress:

http://gaygamer.net/images/bomberman...an-live-05.jpg

BLACK BIKE 03-11-08 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Peedtm (Post 6322712)
No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:

Lol! You don't have to rotate the tire on the rim. You just have to rotate the wheel itself. slacken the chain and pop it off the chain ring, rotate the wheel without rotating the crank, then pop the chain back on.

patric 03-11-08 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by teiaperigosa (Post 6322405)
the serious answer is......

SKID as much as possible....don't worry about the patches...they make you gully

hipsters will give you props when you pop a tire from skidding through it


word

damn do0d your socially and fashionably 2 years ahead of all of us...
tell me what's gonna be cool next so i can ditch my fixed and hop on the next bandwagon so you can laugh in superiority

patric 03-11-08 05:09 PM

oh, and just ride bontrager hardcases..

sp00ki 03-11-08 05:11 PM

(4lyfe)

patric 03-11-08 05:20 PM

**** yeah

dddave 03-11-08 05:33 PM

my gatorskin lasted me 4 months, then i ran over something that sliced through it (and my tube) like a brand new razorblade. my buddy had a brand new soma everwear he gave me and it's been treating me really well the last month. and i skid a fair amount, but not all the time.

thenewblk 03-11-08 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Peedtm (Post 6322712)
No! What about the tire label aligning with the valve stem, huh? You'll end up in the jackass thread.


I'm kidding of course, but it could sadly be true. You should have the descriptive label with the valve, labels facing out from the drive side. Also for the wheel itself, if you can't see the label on the hub through the hole for the valve in the rim, junk it. You should also have the labels on the hubs be right side up when behind your bike. Do it! Or it'll look like you do your own work. :rolleyes:




Or you could just slip chain off the cog, turn wheel, put chain back on. Wheel rotated. No tire removal necessary, labels where they should be, no jackass.

fetch 03-11-08 05:51 PM

what the hell. who would think i was talking about taking the tire off. i said wheel @_@

i guess when i was trying to avoid the "har har fetch you can rotate wheelz by turning cranks nub!" respond i pidgeon holed myself into another jackass response :(

fungis 03-11-08 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by d3fold (Post 6323400)
Try the Soma everwear. COG did a write up on them, said they were great for skidding.


those tires suck. i hope you're kidding. i had one as a front tire, and the sidewalls started going out after three weeks.

ThunderChunky 03-11-08 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by fungis (Post 6326328)
those tires suck. i hope you're kidding. i had one as a front tire, and the sidewalls started going out after three weeks.

you have to pump up the tube first.

EZbot 03-11-08 10:26 PM

+1 vittoria rando's
never tried the bontragers, but i'm interested
would steer clear of anything soma

chore4n 03-12-08 08:58 PM

Thanks for all the advice.
And I'm an idiot for not remembering to just take off the chain and rotate the wheel, lul.

j0e_bik3 03-12-08 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by chore4n (Post 6318871)
I skid daily.
A ton of skidding actually, it's pretty fun.
Even alone, I'm not one of those people that skid just to show off.

I'm currently using an Armadillo rear tire, but the skid patch is forming and I've had the tire for 2 days! I'm wondering if I should replace it soon, or just stop skidding on it.
And I'm also wondering if you sexy members of BF could refer me to some tires that'll last longer when it comes to skidding.
And yes, I know tires aren't meant for skidding whatsoever.


these are:
http://store.somafab.com/everweartire.html

also use this to see if your chainring/cog combo is giving you only one or three skid patches:http://software.bareknucklebrigade.c...it.applet.html

I run 38/15 for 66.8" and 15 skid patches, but you could run a 41/17 and get like 32 skid patches if you skid ambidexterous (I do)

TimArchy 03-12-08 09:46 PM

I just picked up a pair of Panaracer Extreme Duro tires. They are holding up well after about a month. The rubber is damn hard but the traction is good. They are harder to break loose and they grab quicker when my weight moves back. And the casing is super thick. They don't feel as good as the gatorskins I was riding in the states, but I do more skidding over here due to traffic and these seem to be more durable. Plus the rubber + the road surface produces a cool squeal when I skid.

With gatorskins, I would go through one every 3 months or so with hardly any skidding. Just commuting would flatten out the tread. The felt really good and had descent puncture protection. And I got them for $16 each.

chore4n 03-13-08 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by j0e_bik3 (Post 6333338)
these are:
http://store.somafab.com/everweartire.html

also use this to see if your chainring/cog combo is giving you only one or three skid patches:http://software.bareknucklebrigade.c...it.applet.html

I run 38/15 for 66.8" and 15 skid patches, but you could run a 41/17 and get like 32 skid patches if you skid ambidexterous (I do)

I run 45/16, and I have one skid patch. I'm not ambidexterous, I skid with the right foot up, and left foot back.
Thanks for the advice, I'm probably going to change my gearing sometime soon.


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