Some people have overly sensitive anuses and require something softer, apparently.

murdered.

toshi doubles...murder.

self serving hypocrisy stuffed tofu cakes anyone?

because i ride toshis...

silly troll.

I bet half the people on this forum who love their Brooks Saddles, are the same Kooks I see with their saddle nose pointed to 2 o'clock. Its Hip to Back Brooks, and some people can ride anything....

Oh... I ride a B-17 everyday... Its a good saddle

I love my Brooks!

um yeah

Just got mine today for free off a junked peugeaut with a bent frame! So stoked! The saddle is practly brand new. I put about twenty very comfy (though a little bit slidy) miles on it this afternoon. Very happy so far.

Also, not a single vampire attack in all those miles!

Me too! Just shipped today should be here friday I can't wait!

i heart my brooks, breaking a new one in sucks though
but i say its definitly worth it, nothing is better than a seat perfectly formed to ur posterier

My Selle Italia works fine. I haven't ridden 1,000,000 miles yet, but I'm sure I'll have the same opinion. Its firm and comfy.

Seconded. The best things about them is the firmness before they're broken in (in which they feel like any decent modern saddle), and that they're made in England. Otherwise, I find them to be antiquated pud-killers that need more care and attention than a child.

Dont get a B17 if you ride in the drops and in more aero positions. they are made for upright riding.

Got a brooks a few weeks ago. Haven't been able to break it in because of school but it's already more comfortable than my old saddle.

Agree on the murder being in the eye of the beholder part. But I feel the analogy still holds true. Just because bears aren't resourceful enough to use our hides as saddle-coverings doesn't mean we don't kill for the same reason. I doubt that most cows are killed for leather. Note I say most, I am aware there are specific leather-destined cows out there, but this is such a small percentage I will assume it's effect to be null. Then again, do bears kill humans for food? I'm not sure, maybe it's protection. In which case, those cows were coming right at me. I had to eat them.

Sorry to bring this back up, but shouldn't we use more leather in the U.S. just to avoid waste? (not an opinion on brooks saddles)

That assumes that growing animals for food and hide, transporting and tanning the leather is not wasteful. I'd argue that using leather as an "environmentally sound" alternative to plastic saddles is, at best, a total wash.

BuT ItS NoT MaDe oF pEtRoLiUm sO itZ bEtTeR bUsH sUcKz

good point. I was only thinking as far as that its already been killed to make meat, so if we don't use the rest we're being wasteful.

OT: I carry a handgun only for tiger attacks and zombie attacks. I swear you all laugh now but wait till the zombies attack...

just go away.

haha, you like leather goods, haha!

you think them *****s is dope! haha.

World War Z, anyone?

Is that like Metal Slug X? If so, yes plz.

Ditch the Brooks idea. My Fizik changed life. Synthetic, fairly affordable (via ebay), and comfortable as a mothers womb...