Seated skids
12-18-08 | 01:37 PM
#51
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No matter what you are going to lift a little even its a few cm's. If you look at all the videos posted in this thread you can see a slight lift from the seat, even the SF video. I ride 46/16 and when I started ridding fixed I was "seat skidding" the second day of riding. just came kind of natural and easy for me.
BUT, I meantioned before when I was a kid in the late 70's I had bikes that were fixed wheel and to stop you had to skid using back pressure. Call it muscle memory I guess.
BUT, I meantioned before when I was a kid in the late 70's I had bikes that were fixed wheel and to stop you had to skid using back pressure. Call it muscle memory I guess.
12-18-08 | 03:30 PM
#52
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I like nerdbot5000's explanation of how he skids:
If nerdbot5000 doesn't teach for a living, he might consider it.
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A while back during a prolonged medical treatment I geared WAY down just because I didn't otherwise have the strength or energy to ride.
Sixty gear inches.
Anyway, I really learned to spin, and I found myself inadvertently skidding while back pedalling.
It would happen when I pulled up with the front foot.
If 60 gear inches seems low, on my severe weather Ice Bike I ride with 50 gear inches; and, yes, the world goes by rather slowly.
At 50 gear inches I have to consciously avoid skidding because skidding tears the studs out of my tires.
Originally Posted by nerdbot5000
1. Pedal a bit, and then ever now and then go limp and let the pedals push your legs around
2. Do the same thing, but this time, as the pedal come backwards and up, let it push your body off the saddle. Just relax and stiffen your back leg a bit to do this.
3. Do the same thing but try to completely straighten your back leg as the pedal comes backwards and up, and let it push your body off the saddle
4. Do the same thing as #3, but when the pedals start to approach the point where the cranks are parallel to the ground, resist with your front foot by pulling. You should definitely feel a point where there is a great resistance to pedaling, and that should be when the cranks and parallel with the ground.
2. Do the same thing, but this time, as the pedal come backwards and up, let it push your body off the saddle. Just relax and stiffen your back leg a bit to do this.
3. Do the same thing but try to completely straighten your back leg as the pedal comes backwards and up, and let it push your body off the saddle
4. Do the same thing as #3, but when the pedals start to approach the point where the cranks are parallel to the ground, resist with your front foot by pulling. You should definitely feel a point where there is a great resistance to pedaling, and that should be when the cranks and parallel with the ground.
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A while back during a prolonged medical treatment I geared WAY down just because I didn't otherwise have the strength or energy to ride.
Sixty gear inches.
Anyway, I really learned to spin, and I found myself inadvertently skidding while back pedalling.
It would happen when I pulled up with the front foot.
If 60 gear inches seems low, on my severe weather Ice Bike I ride with 50 gear inches; and, yes, the world goes by rather slowly.
At 50 gear inches I have to consciously avoid skidding because skidding tears the studs out of my tires.
12-18-08 | 04:18 PM
#53
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For me it's more of a timing issue. The more you think about it the more you will understand when I say just lock your knees. You can also lean to the side to help you learn.
Full lean (nuts on stem) skids are the stupidest looking thing on earth. Skid up right or go home.
Actually I don't care, what ever you do, as long as (it's legal) you are on a bike it's alright by me.
Full lean (nuts on stem) skids are the stupidest looking thing on earth. Skid up right or go home.
Actually I don't care, what ever you do, as long as (it's legal) you are on a bike it's alright by me.
I only do short upright skids for stopping, not the leaned forward trick skids. But, from time to time i like to lean forward and get a long skid going for fun, knowing that its going to eat up my tires.
12-19-08 | 01:32 AM
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12-19-08 | 03:18 AM
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go to the nearest golf course at night after they turn off the sprinklers and start at the top of the highest hill they have and go as fast as you can and then skid for days.
12-26-08 | 10:29 PM
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Honestly I think these guys are better at skidding then most of the mash crew..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDU-V...eature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDU-V...eature=related
03-07-09 | 11:26 PM
#61
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I don't know how anybody could skid while completely seated...Here's my theory on how it might be done though.
1. Be like...105 lbs
2. Have a crazy short gear ratio
3. Have superman legs
Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose.
But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength
1. Be like...105 lbs
2. Have a crazy short gear ratio
3. Have superman legs
Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose.
But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength
I do it all the time.
1) I'm 250 lbs
2) 51/19 = 70.5 gear inches
3) Got super human legs. It's hard to do when I'm out of "riding fixed gear" shape.
4) Clipless (but I can do it in toe clips, too)
Also... I can do it ambi (on both sides)
03-08-09 | 06:33 AM
#63
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Hey,
I am doing 46/17 and I can skid, but I am having trouble skidding like the masters doing fish-tailing left and right. So skidding downhill is slightly unpractical.
Would be better to go 46/19?
T
I am doing 46/17 and I can skid, but I am having trouble skidding like the masters doing fish-tailing left and right. So skidding downhill is slightly unpractical.
Would be better to go 46/19?
T
03-08-09 | 08:11 AM
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1fluffhead and nerdbot5000's explanation of how they skid just helped me pull my first one! Cheers lads! Been trying for a little while and just couldn't get them.. I ain't lookin for Hipster points, but I needed to know, had a few close calls recently, can't find a brake lever to fit my drops (poor excuse I know) but now I don't need one! 
Was on fresh Gatorskinz, 80" and on smooth pavement (my patio). Rolled my back wheel on the damp lawn and helped me get the first one, but got easier after that one!
Was on fresh Gatorskinz, 80" and on smooth pavement (my patio). Rolled my back wheel on the damp lawn and helped me get the first one, but got easier after that one!
03-09-09 | 09:10 AM
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03-09-09 | 09:51 AM
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07-03-09 | 09:38 AM
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I don't know how anybody could skid while completely seated...Here's my theory on how it might be done though.
1. Be like...105 lbs
2. Have a crazy short gear ratio
3. Have superman legs
Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose.
But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength
1. Be like...105 lbs
2. Have a crazy short gear ratio
3. Have superman legs
Then MAYBE it could happen I suppose.
But then again, I don't really have any of these things...I'm 200lbs w/ 48/17 gears and barely average leg strength
07-03-09 | 01:55 PM
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so who else thinks locking up your knees and then putting hundreds of pounds of pressure on them is a bad idea?
anyone?
anyone?
07-03-09 | 02:04 PM
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Be aware that seated skids can be pulled off if you have the strength and/ or low gearing but your are leaving more weight on the back wich will ruin your tire a lot faster than doing an out of seat skid.
Or if you have a front brake slam that thing on and lock your wheel, while seated. You can let off the brake off and keep the skid going pretty easily. The front front brake unweights the back allowing you to do this
Or if you have a front brake slam that thing on and lock your wheel, while seated. You can let off the brake off and keep the skid going pretty easily. The front front brake unweights the back allowing you to do this
