Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111270)

How will the bystander mistake your croppers or jack for keys? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111279)

It's a good point except Kryptonite shouldn't be out $800 because someone locked their bike to a destructible object.

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111279)

It's a good point except Kryptonite shouldn't be out $800 because someone locked their bike to a destructible object.

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111310)

I thought you had enough insight that I didn't need to spell out the entire scenario. It could appear as:

1. You lose keys or the lock is frozen.
2. You come back with tools to remove it.
3. You take the lock with you because it's yours.

Originally Posted by drafters65 (Post 7111323)

youre helping a big corporation worry about $800?

Originally Posted by drafters65 (Post 7111323)

youre helping a big corporation worry about $800?

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111350)

This is exactly the attitude that would keep any company from offering a more comprehensive insurance policy with their locks.

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111340)

Riiight, that's how it happens. :rolleyes: Sorry I couldn't fathom such a ridiculous scenario.

Originally Posted by tbrtbx (Post 5311578)

No, it wasn't my lock (thankfully!), but my friends' key broke off in his lock, so we had to cut it. Didn't take long - but that isn't my problem with it (the amount of time it would take to cut different branded d-locks would be roughly the same, i think), but that after you cut through one side, you can move it left and right. If this was prevented, thieves would have to cut one each side to split it in 2 - know what i mean?

Read the comment at the bottom of the link - what this guy says is true. What the reviewer says about cutting through both sides taking 10 minutes is false, however. It took me only 1 min with a 4.5inch disc angle grinder.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...ork-3000-10498

Originally Posted by drafters65 (Post 7111389)

Then they should make a better lock. their chains isnt exactly clip-proof you know? and their u-locks? well this thread says it already...

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111436)

You've never heard of anyone having to cut their own locks off?

Originally Posted by JayNev (Post 7111499)

Looking at Kryptonite's guide to locking up your bike, I always get confused by this one.

"3. Lock in a well-lit area with a lot of foot traffic."


But why, as opposed to an area away from the street where not as many people would even notice your bike. your bike hides in the shadows, locked up, and barely anyone would see it. seems pretty safe to me... but

at the same time, if a thief did see the bike, he would be covered in a dark area. It seems either way, it's risking it. I'd rather not have as many people even see my bike on the main street though.

what is the general/safer option?

Originally Posted by old scratch (Post 7108253)

interesting. i appreciate the info. is that what happened here? power tools?

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111509)

Because thieves like darkness and privacy. It makes perfect sense to lock up your bike in an area with the most people around.

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111470)

Their high-end locks are top notch. We have no idea which lock the OP was using or how the bike was stolen.

BTW, where are all the reports of bikes being properly locked with high-end Kryptonite locks being stolen?

Originally Posted by decadyne (Post 7111535)

honestly, with all the questions you're starting to sound more like a guy interested in learning new ways to steal bikes than anything else.

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111552)

Really depends if you live in a city where people would even take notice of a thief.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111350)

This is exactly the attitude that would keep any company from offering a more comprehensive insurance policy with their locks.

Originally Posted by drafters65 (Post 7111555)

ok fine...where are all the reports of bikes stolen with the make/model of the lock being used? just because you chained it up with a nyc fuggetaboutit chain doesnt mean it cant get stolen (it just takes a little longer) and their u-locks are even easier. when you buy a high-end lock youre only buying time.

Originally Posted by 11201ny (Post 7111605)

you people are way too bored.

Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 7111560)

He sounds much more like a guy who wants to know how bikes in his city are being stolen in order to keep ahead of the game. Thieves don't troll message boards for the latest and greatest ways of breaking locks, word travels just fine in their own circles.

You on the other hand sound paranoid.

Originally Posted by SheistyMike (Post 7111617)

I didn't say it was anything new. I was pointing out that depending on where you live busy passer-byers offer less protection than a bike that is out of sight.