It's not that much work... Transfer the BB and cranks; transfer the stem and bars; install and hook up new front brake; transfer wheels/tires; transfer the seatpost/saddle.

Cost. Buying a frame is only $200 and change but factoring in a new wheelset, cranks, chain, stem, bars, seatpost, saddle, etc. to build up a whole other frame and soon you are deep into the wallet.

I don't really need 2 "identical-except-for-the-frame" fixies in my collection. I'm thinking build the Jury as a FG to take the place of my messenger and at a later date rebuild the messenger frame into an OSOBike-esque SS with a coaster brake rear wheel for riding some longer road stuff.

I'm running a 23mm gatorskin on the rear (where all the flats are occuring) and I've gotten 2 flats with it already. It's a nice tire, but it has proven inefficient at preventing flats where I ride. My greenway bike runs 34mm commuter tires and it has only given me one flat in several thousand miles. I believe this to be due to poor trail conditions and my weighing north of 200lbs.

Exactly what I am thinking to build a cross but not yet found a frame 47-48 cm under $200.

What about a SS cross frame w/ canti posts for $208.95 shipped? I think 49cm is the smallest they stock but maybe you could use a shorter stem to make up the difference?

Looks like a good gig, are these motobecanes still as heavy as they were back in the day? Is this true of most french built frames?

Man i love my bike. i have done a little upgrading.
continental ultra sports, forte saddle, eggbeaters and pearl izumi MTB shoes, waterbottle cage and bottle. all i need now is a 42T chainring and im set

pics or ban!

soon...hold yer horses

bad pic but here it is..oh and i forgot to add the new stem. i got it from my local performance which was going out of business. its a cf stem off some older high end road bike...5 bucks
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Different company making bikes under the name Motobecane now. These frames are made in China for an american company and although you aren't going to get an ultralight frame for $200, I wouldn't say that the frames are unreasonably heavy either.

I agree,I have a moderate built Kilo TT

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But for the cheap,I dare you to find a better frame.Im not into cross,but i think you could transfer all your parts,except you will have to buy vee/canti brakes,unless you run brakeless.

Bye the bye,I have seen a lot more F1x3d riders here latley.

I say we spread this as far as we can.

k, i just checked my bike, got the lockring off. there's red stuff on the threading so it's safe to say it's been glued with locktite, although i didn't get any trouble getting it off.

I picked up some 28mm tires and I'm going to see if I can run them for a while. I got the tires from an online store that was closing and paid $5.60 a piece for them! The only way to get tires cheaper than this is to shoplift them!

a little thread revival, but hopefully not too bad.

on BD it says threaded or threadless fork (no choice)...

what did you guys yet?

threadless.

i got gr9s last month for my bike, i like, and the metal clips hold my foot better then the stock plastic clips.

Hey guys, I'm sure it's been asked before and it's somewhere in this forum, but I'm new so I came here first.

I'm considering the 54cm Messenger, but the Windsor Clockwork is also appealing, and for the $30 difference I can't figure out what the differences are between the two. I can see that the Messenger has a bit more tight of a geometry, but will that matter?

This bike will be ridden entirely on streets in a large city, and I will ride it as a SS, but still want the option to go fixed.

Any help?

the motomess has all you need. it has a fix cog and a freewheel.

motomess ftw!

Alright guys, I'm gonna buy this. I'm 6'0'' - 6'1'', and have about a 30.5 inseam, should I go for the 56cm?

im 5'10 and 56cm fits me fine

check the sizing chart, i think the geometry for 56motomess is for 5'9 -5'11

Thanks for the info, my problem is that I've never been sized for a track frame, and have no idea what to do. Does anyone know where I can find info on how to measure myself in relation to a track frame's sizing?

hit up your lbs

couple of updates since the last time i posted it up

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obligatory ****ty camera phone pic.

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