phils laced to. . .(durable?)
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phils laced to. . .(durable?)
So I destroyed a rear hub on a bargain wheelset--
The bike is mostly a foul weather commuter
and for roller riding. I got tired of adjusting cheap hubs a lot and I
threw down for a new rear wheel. Phil high flange laced to a deep v.
I didn't really care about the rim as long as it was durable. Weight isn't
a huge issue to me. I kinda wanted a low profile rim but the shop
seemed convinced that for low maintenance the velocity rims
were the way to go (32-hole). Just for the record what do folks
think the most durable rims are? I'm eventually going to
get a near front wheel. The rear is simple--silver hub
laced to black with silver spokes. Ain't goin for bling.
The bike is mostly a foul weather commuter
and for roller riding. I got tired of adjusting cheap hubs a lot and I
threw down for a new rear wheel. Phil high flange laced to a deep v.
I didn't really care about the rim as long as it was durable. Weight isn't
a huge issue to me. I kinda wanted a low profile rim but the shop
seemed convinced that for low maintenance the velocity rims
were the way to go (32-hole). Just for the record what do folks
think the most durable rims are? I'm eventually going to
get a near front wheel. The rear is simple--silver hub
laced to black with silver spokes. Ain't goin for bling.
Last edited by Suttree; 08-19-08 at 10:44 PM.
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I went for fusions instead of v's. I was told the reported weight of aeroheads was lowballed and that aeroheads and fusions are near the same weight. Fusions seem like a nice compromise of weight and durability and rotational mass at the the rim and tire is the best place to save weight even if one doesn't really care about weight.
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I went for fusions instead of v's. I was told the reported weight of aeroheads was lowballed and that aeroheads and fusions are near the same weight. Fusions seem like a nice compromise of weight and durability and rotational mass at the the rim and tire is the best place to save weight even if one doesn't really care about weight.
but I don't really care about weight as long as it isn't an old steel rim. I ride in the rain and about 4 times a week on the rollers--my daily commuter for most weather is an old Bridgestone XO-1 (not fixed). For all
intents and purposes a little more rotational weight won't matter to me--I ain't racing anyone.
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Fusions are great, I have had a couple sets so far. Someone was telling me that the Fusions are better than a lot of other rims because Velocity drills the holes as opposed to stamping them. My understanding is that they are stronger around the hole, even compared to rims with eyelets (single).
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I'd also rec CXP33s. Build into really nice solid wheels without the weight or flash of Deep Vs. Take potholes well etc and haven't needed any truing in 1000s of miles.
Haven't ridden me RR1.1s too much when its nasty out but I love the way wheels built with them ride so may be a great option if you want a more low-profile wheel.
Haven't ridden me RR1.1s too much when its nasty out but I love the way wheels built with them ride so may be a great option if you want a more low-profile wheel.
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So I destroyed a rear hub on a bargain wheelset--
The bike is mostly a foul weather commuter
and for roller riding. I got tired of adjusting cheap hubs a lot and I
threw down for a new rear wheel. Phil high flange laced to a deep v.
I didn't really care about the rim as long as it was durable. Weight isn't
a huge issue to me. I kinda wanted a low profile rim but the shop
seemed convinced that for low maintenance the velocity rims
were the way to go (32-hole). Just for the record what do folks
think the most durable rims are? I'm eventually going to
get a near front wheel. The rear is simple--silver hub
laced to black with silver spokes. Ain't goin for bling.
The bike is mostly a foul weather commuter
and for roller riding. I got tired of adjusting cheap hubs a lot and I
threw down for a new rear wheel. Phil high flange laced to a deep v.
I didn't really care about the rim as long as it was durable. Weight isn't
a huge issue to me. I kinda wanted a low profile rim but the shop
seemed convinced that for low maintenance the velocity rims
were the way to go (32-hole). Just for the record what do folks
think the most durable rims are? I'm eventually going to
get a near front wheel. The rear is simple--silver hub
laced to black with silver spokes. Ain't goin for bling.
After DT swiss he said velocity. For basically the same reasons as DT, mainly that they have great quality control and that the rims are easy to lace and stay truer longer. He also liked the fact they have lots of spoke hole configs.
After Velocity he said mavic. He mentioned their QC wasnt as good as the others (open pro's clicking at the weld) and that he thinks they have moved on from making good rims to making good wheelsets.
So basically if you havent looked into DT swiss, i would do that, they make great rims. But there kinda expensive. Personally I like velocity alot so thats usually where i look when im building wheels.
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Nobody really remembers them because they're not one of the "big" rim makers, but Salsa makes some CX-specific rims that are pretty bomber and easy to work with. I've been running them for a long time, and they are eyeletted and low-profile.
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I've had bombproof wheels with both open sports, open pros, and fusions. I will always tell you there is more strength in the build than in the rim. If you destroyed your hub then the phil will resolve that issue and you aren't a huge guy or anything. Most rims will be enough for you. Focus on the builder, go see Doug at Rex's shop. He knows his stuff.
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Thanks Chris--
I destroyed a formula hub which is par for the course
for riding it hard for a year on rollers and potholed
streets.
I destroyed a formula hub which is par for the course
for riding it hard for a year on rollers and potholed
streets.
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Phils laced to a deep v is a huge waste. But it will be a super durable wheel if a competent mechanic handbuilt them. Deep v's blow quality wise, but the 30mm strength gives them well, huge strength. And weight.
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I run 36h Dyads and couldn't be happier. They are a little wider but so what? Lower profile and, IMO, just as strong as a Deep V.
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mavic open pro or cxp series rims cxp is nice it is a cross rim
or sun rhyno lite 29er rim super sturdy but don't go narrower than 28c on em
or sun rhyno lite 29er rim super sturdy but don't go narrower than 28c on em
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mavic open pro or cxp series rims cxp is nice it is a cross rim
or sun rhyno lite 29er rim super sturdy but don't go narrower than 28c on em
or sun rhyno lite 29er rim super sturdy but don't go narrower than 28c on em
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