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Old 09-18-08 | 07:00 PM
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New bike project...

Hello folks.

After finishing my MTB convert to SS, I purchased the following offer eBay via best offer. This will be my first attempt at a ground up build and my first fixie. I am excited and I hope I don't muff things up.

• New for 2009 Eighth Inch "Scrambler" Track / FixedGear Frame & Fork
• This auction is for a size 53cm Frameset
• Made from 4130 Chromoly Steel
• True Horizontal Track Dropouts!
• Accepts 700c Sized Wheels
• Includes Carbon Fiber Threadless Fork (45mm rake)
• 1 1/8" Steer Tube
• 27.2mm Seatpost Sizing
• 120mm Rear Spacing
• 68mm English (BSC) Threading Bottom Bracket Shell
• Drilled for Brakes Front & Rear
• Rear Brake Cable Routing Bosses
• Rear lower Rack/Fender mounting holes
• Weight (53cm) 5.2lbs [2360 grams]
• Fork weight 480 grams (uncut)
• Note: Frame comes blank (black) with no decals included
• Geometry Specs:

I am going for an all black theme with a polished King headset and clear grips on risers. Going to have the wife get me custom rims from Monkey Cycle out of Oakland for Xmas with a trippy spoke pattern.

Looking forward to researching and shopping for parts.

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Old 09-19-08 | 09:47 AM
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Well, I got my email reply back from Monkey about the approx. cost of the wheelset I described and it is out of my price range for this project.
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Old 09-19-08 | 09:50 AM
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Go to Ben's cycle. You can get a hand built wheelset with parts they supply starting around $200 a set.
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Old 09-30-08 | 04:39 PM
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Bikes: Motobecane Fantom Trail DS - Gary Fisher Tass Genesis - Genius CGX Starling - Old School Redline Proline - EightInch Scrambler FG/SS

I got some parts finally from the folks at Bike Biz. I decided to not spend as much money on this project as originally had planned since this is my first FG/SS.

So far I have FSA Orbit headset, basic Sugino TH7420 bb and black Messenger crankset.

Still don't know what I am going to do for stem, bars and wheels. As far as the wheels go, I want all black with the exception of the front wheel braking surface.

Thanks to the folks @ Bike Biz for the assistance and also to these forums.

Until next time.
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Old 09-30-08 | 04:42 PM
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Why did you go with FSA instead of king?
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Old 09-30-08 | 04:49 PM
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Basically the cost. Hopefully the old saying "you get what you pay for" does not apply. I was told it was a decent entry level headset.

I really liked my friend's Concept that he let me borrow while he was out of town. I can't afford buying a bike like his, so I thought I would give it a shot at the "entry level" building it myself instead of one out of the box.
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Old 09-30-08 | 04:50 PM
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I would go cheap or used for the rest of the parts to see how you like it. Let me know if you need hand with anything, I'm local.
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Old 09-30-08 | 04:51 PM
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FSA is solid. King is better, but that fsa will do you right.
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Old 09-30-08 | 05:39 PM
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How about these wheel sets from eBay? I am more partial to the all black with machined braking surface.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220282920728

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180290994721

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Old 09-30-08 | 05:57 PM
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Thanks for the post dougland89. When you buy wheels like this, do they come ready to ride or will they need truing?
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Old 09-30-08 | 07:02 PM
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I like the look of the Weinmann's but they do have a reputation of splitting... but I think you'd have to really pound on them to wreck em.
I would check out the mavic's as dougland said. And formula hubs (as long as you aren't riding SUPER hard) should do just fine.
Usually they are relatively true but if you order any wheels online you should at least have your LBS check them out first.
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Old 09-30-08 | 07:20 PM
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Sounds fun. Don't let people dog on you because you don't have a name brand frame. There is nothing wrong with 4130. And a $150 frame with nice components will probably ride better than a $600 frame with crap on it.

Check out this website if you are looking for a stem
https://www.sierratradingpost.com/d/3...cessories.html

It will be hard to get a wheelset "off the shelf" with a non-machined rear, and machined rear. IRO could probably do it, or you could buy the pieces yourself and build them up yourself.
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Old 09-30-08 | 09:24 PM
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pics or gtfo
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Old 09-30-08 | 09:29 PM
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pics or gtfo
Awfully aggressive for a junior member don't you think?
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Old 10-01-08 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dougland89
^ No to both. the first ones have a bad rep of splitting
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I like the look of the Weinmann's but they do have a reputation of splitting...
Serious question, do either of you (or anyone else) have any real experiance with this issue? I am yet to hear a single first hand story or even see a picture of a failed DP18.
I run one on the rear of my conversion and have had no problems.
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Old 10-01-08 | 09:23 AM
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ive had my dp18's for about 5 months now and no problems sofar. i guess you have to be doing some really stupid stuff to really break these things.
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Old 10-01-08 | 10:23 AM
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Hello.

At the request of bookkeeper here's your pic.
So you can "stfu" & "gtfo"(jk-gotta have a sense of humor.)
Haven't had a chance to pick up the cranks that arrived yesterday from Bike Biz.

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Old 10-03-08 | 08:29 PM
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I got some wheels off craig's for $100 formula hubs all black like I wanted and trued for free list https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/863300712.html & in keeping with tradition...a pic.

edit posted wrong pic added comment
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good lookin' set of parts so far! definitely keep an eye on Craigslist if you're building an entry-level starter bike. If you choose wisely you can save a lot of money.

and not to derail the thread further but i agree with the "pics or GTFO" comment on the Weinmanns. This stupid "splitting" story comes up over and over again on this forum, yet i have never seen any evidence at all. i don't own a set and i don't have any reason to defend Weinmann, but it's really annoying to see a baseless rumor continued to be propagated just so people can sound like they know more about bikes than they actually do.

so yeah, "pics or GTFO"
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Old 10-03-08 | 09:44 PM
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if your interested ill have my stem and handlebars for sale soon off my cannondale capo. located in sac also. I have the wheelset coming off it also, but looks like you found a set.
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Old 10-03-08 | 10:13 PM
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i like where this is going. keep us updated with progress pics.
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Old 10-04-08 | 03:06 PM
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It's on! I have everything except front brake, bars and grips. I am going to start assembly today. Going to take my time so I don't fark anything up.
- Miche Supertype seat post
- MKS CR-9 platform pedals and 1/2 clips
- Soma 17t cog
- 16t Shimano freewheel
- Salsa Moto Ace stem
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Old 10-04-08 | 05:19 PM
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Good stuff. Excited to see where this project is heading.
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Old 10-05-08 | 01:02 PM
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Hello.

I am stuck atm until I get the steer tube cut. Looks like I'll need to some reading on that before I proceed. I am also not happy with the spacers I got, I'd like to find some that match the diameter of the headset.

I also forgot to purchase the seat tube clamp, so I'll steal one of my son's moto-x.

Gonna need more tools and knowledge.

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Pimp-ass bars FTW
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