Could we be Nader'd?
03-17-04, 01:44 PM
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I have alot of stories of people yelling at me for being out of control and reckless and then later in the day getting bent out of shape that I wouldn't be able to get from point a to point b in less then 2 minutes. Or the calls from the mayors office to pickup jewlery for his wife or whatever, Menino is the mayor who has been very vocal about his dislike for bike messengers, but not so much that he won't use them. But thats not to say that some of the messengers down there aren't a bit out of control.
03-17-04, 01:47 PM
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under the state law mandating deference to pedestrians in crosswalks
03-17-04, 01:48 PM
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but a cop and some guy from the military are not private working citizens. For as much as I hated the plate I was ok with having that on my pretty little bike. But no way was I going to walk through offices, court houses, hospitals or shopping centers with a big stupid number on my back.
03-17-04, 01:51 PM
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'and about that, maybe 10% of those peds actually use the crosswalks or crossing lights. I would really like to know how much the city of Boston wastes on painting crosswalks or runing those lights.
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03-17-04, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by William Karsten
Prisoners.
03-17-04, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Schiek
I'm not sure they fall under the private working citizen category.
Well, yeah.
I've read a lot of this story, and it would appear that we can be nadered.
I guess I'd put a brake on my bike hooked to the handle by a string.
03-17-04, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by William Karsten
I've read a lot of this story, and it would appear that we can be nadered.
nader was fighting for the people injured whilst driving a car that was inherently unsafe. nader was fighting the industry that produced that car.
this is stupid people asking to be protected from their own fu<king stupidity. if you cross the road against the traffic, expect to get hit. [it helps makes me feel much more acomplished when i cross succesfully]
there's a huge difference between the stupidity of individuals and the willful negligence and endagerment of life by a company [who's only reason for existence is profit].
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03-17-04, 02:15 PM
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every once in a while I like to go downtown with my bag on and all and kind of run jam car for the messengers. draw the attention to me and let the cops stop me thinking that I am a messenger with no number on.
03-17-04, 02:17 PM
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wow, I love to read my posts afterwards and see for myself the command of the english language that I wield. Do I ever make sense?
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Originally Posted by hammye
wow, I love to read my posts afterwards and see for myself the command of the english language that I wield. Do I ever make sense?
conjugate the verbs...etc.
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Originally Posted by p3ntuprage
this isn't being 'nadered'.
nader was fighting for the people injured whilst driving a car that was inherently unsafe. nader was fighting the industry that produced that car.
nader was fighting for the people injured whilst driving a car that was inherently unsafe. nader was fighting the industry that produced that car.
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03-17-04, 03:49 PM
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Nader decided something was unsafe and went about any method to figure out how or why. Some of his methods were questionable, at best. In the long run, he did little more than boost his image.
That aside, the term "Nader'd" is well understood.
Standby your man, if you like.
The term was meant to describe another issue all together.
William "can't get a point across" Karstens
That aside, the term "Nader'd" is well understood.
Standby your man, if you like.
The term was meant to describe another issue all together.
William "can't get a point across" Karstens
03-17-04, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by William Karsten
A fixed gear does have a brake. If it doesn't, it's not a fixed gear.
. Mind you I am not disputing that many fixed gear riders can stop their brike and ride it safely without brakes, rather that at least some local vehicle codes may not consider leg braking to legally constitute a proper brake and therefore potentially open the rider up to liability or shield someone else from liability in the unfortunate event of an accident.In any case my point was that law enforcement rarely makes a point of pulling a bicycle over for lacking all the equipment it might be legally required to have.
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