Container large enough to soak frame?
#26
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I'm looking for some kind of container large enough to submerge my entire frame. I've read about people using plastic kiddie pools, but no stores sell them this time of year (I've tried Target, Walmart, pool supply stores, Big Lots and Home Depot).
Any other ideas? What other industries use large cheap plastic bins that would hold an entire frame?
I'm need this to soak my frame in a bath of oxalic acid to remove rust. I know there are other ways of doing this, but I want to get the inside of the frame, and there is chrome on the bike that I don't want to damage with wire brushes and harsher chemicals.
Thanks!
Any other ideas? What other industries use large cheap plastic bins that would hold an entire frame?
I'm need this to soak my frame in a bath of oxalic acid to remove rust. I know there are other ways of doing this, but I want to get the inside of the frame, and there is chrome on the bike that I don't want to damage with wire brushes and harsher chemicals.
Thanks!
If you are going to repaint, just sand the frame to bare metal and be careful near the chrome. The rust inside the tubes doesn't make any difference, just put some frame saver inside to keep it from rusting more. Rust protects the underlying metal to some extent. The time you spend on building an acid bath, purchasing and disposing of the acid and waiting for it to work would be more than just hitting it with sandpaper and won't give you as smooth a finish when you are done.
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I have heard the same complaints from Canadians regarding the mess created by warfare.
Don't be a ninny.
#28
If you are going to repaint, just sand the frame to bare metal and be careful near the chrome. The rust inside the tubes doesn't make any difference, just put some frame saver inside to keep it from rusting more. Rust protects the underlying metal to some extent. The time you spend on building an acid bath, purchasing and disposing of the acid and waiting for it to work would be more than just hitting it with sandpaper and won't give you as smooth a finish when you are done.
That's a great point about the interior rust. It's minor, so maybe a new layer of Frame Saver is all it needs. Thank for the input.
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I should state that #0000 wool wet, with polish can be used with almost no pressure. But at that point, why not use a cloth rag and polish.
#38
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From: Erie, PA
Bikes: I have cut my stable down to one bike in hopes to make room for a roadie.
STOP STOP STOP!
Stop...
Here's what you do, trust me on this.
I'm gonna make this really easy and detailed
Materials:
Garden Hose
Cardboard
Plastic Bags
Packing Tape
Rubber Gloves
Paper Towels
Paint Brush
BONDO RUST REMOVER
Steps:
1. Use Paper towel and packing tape to fill bottom bracket shell and seal the ends of the tubes that connect at this junction. Use a plastic bag to seal the bottom of the head tube.
2. With the gloves on pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the top tube from the head tube (or seat tube depending on where the opening is. Seal off the end.
3. Pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the seat tube and seal the top.
4. Pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the head tube and seal the top.
5. Shake, flip around, and keep the frame moving for 5-15 minutes depending on the amount of rust. Unseal all the tubes and run a garden hose through all of the tubes. If the inside of any of the tubes feel slimey keep running the water in it until it feels clean. Warm water might help if it feels really slimey.
6. Use the paint brush to apply the rust remover to the outside and let sit as long as the bottle tells you to and hose it off.
7. Finally, use polish of your choice to shine the bike and don't forget to use a frame saver.
Stop...
Here's what you do, trust me on this.
I'm gonna make this really easy and detailed
Materials:
Garden Hose
Cardboard
Plastic Bags
Packing Tape
Rubber Gloves
Paper Towels
Paint Brush
BONDO RUST REMOVER
Steps:
1. Use Paper towel and packing tape to fill bottom bracket shell and seal the ends of the tubes that connect at this junction. Use a plastic bag to seal the bottom of the head tube.
2. With the gloves on pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the top tube from the head tube (or seat tube depending on where the opening is. Seal off the end.
3. Pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the seat tube and seal the top.
4. Pour some Bondo Rust Remover down the head tube and seal the top.
5. Shake, flip around, and keep the frame moving for 5-15 minutes depending on the amount of rust. Unseal all the tubes and run a garden hose through all of the tubes. If the inside of any of the tubes feel slimey keep running the water in it until it feels clean. Warm water might help if it feels really slimey.
6. Use the paint brush to apply the rust remover to the outside and let sit as long as the bottle tells you to and hose it off.
7. Finally, use polish of your choice to shine the bike and don't forget to use a frame saver.
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https://www.thriftyfun.com/tf551528.tip.html
Seems silly, but worth a shot.
It would take a crap-ton of oxalic acid to get a solution of decent molarity that would remove rust to fill a kiddie pool. +1 on the naval jelly/other commercial rust remover. Make a visit to the auto parts store and ask what would best remove rust from chrome.
Seems silly, but worth a shot.
It would take a crap-ton of oxalic acid to get a solution of decent molarity that would remove rust to fill a kiddie pool. +1 on the naval jelly/other commercial rust remover. Make a visit to the auto parts store and ask what would best remove rust from chrome.
#45
Ridin' Hard.
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From: Erie, PA
Bikes: I have cut my stable down to one bike in hopes to make room for a roadie.
https://www.thriftyfun.com/tf551528.tip.html
Seems silly, but worth a shot.
It would take a crap-ton of oxalic acid to get a solution of decent molarity that would remove rust to fill a kiddie pool. +1 on the naval jelly/other commercial rust remover. Make a visit to the auto parts store and ask what would best remove rust from chrome.
Seems silly, but worth a shot.
It would take a crap-ton of oxalic acid to get a solution of decent molarity that would remove rust to fill a kiddie pool. +1 on the naval jelly/other commercial rust remover. Make a visit to the auto parts store and ask what would best remove rust from chrome.
I would think that if you want to remove rust from chrome the best option would just be some metal polish and some 0000 steel wool and some elbow grease.
#46
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Bikes: 2008 Specialized Langster, Kilo WT, 1986 Dahon Classic Folder, 1986 Panasonic Mountain Cat
Electrolysis
I have used electrolysis on motorcycle parts. It is the ****. Cool thing is it converts some of the iron oxide back into iron. The rest of the rust just basically falls off. You will however lose the chrome and it will remove the paint.
#47
Thanks for all the ideas everyone!
I wish I had a couple more rusty frames around. I'd try each of these solutions and this could be a really useful thread. I'm going to do this on my vacation between Christmas and New Years. I'll report back with how it turned out.
I picked up an empty bike box from my local bike shop and a painter's tarp from home depot. The painter's tarp is a heavier plastic, cheap, and I can cut it into several large sheets so i can layer them into the box. When I'm all done it'll cost me about $4 and 10 minutes of my time. My brother has oxalic acid he can give me for free, so this is the cheapest solution. If I didn't already have all this stuff, I think the Bondo/Naval Jelly solution would have worked really well and been cheap/easy.
I might try the tin foil and coke thing on a small spot just to see if it really works.
I wish I had a couple more rusty frames around. I'd try each of these solutions and this could be a really useful thread. I'm going to do this on my vacation between Christmas and New Years. I'll report back with how it turned out.
I picked up an empty bike box from my local bike shop and a painter's tarp from home depot. The painter's tarp is a heavier plastic, cheap, and I can cut it into several large sheets so i can layer them into the box. When I'm all done it'll cost me about $4 and 10 minutes of my time. My brother has oxalic acid he can give me for free, so this is the cheapest solution. If I didn't already have all this stuff, I think the Bondo/Naval Jelly solution would have worked really well and been cheap/easy.
I might try the tin foil and coke thing on a small spot just to see if it really works.






