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Old 01-28-09 | 12:51 AM
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I suppose you COULD run a rotafixed cog on a freewheel thread with a BB lockring without too much trouble at the track.

But only the track.
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Old 01-28-09 | 12:56 AM
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As dirtyphotons pointed out, most if not all velodromes have rules that specify you must have a lockring installed on your bike.
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Also gives you the most versatility for a flip-flop since you can run a freewheel or a fixed cog on either side. (Sure, you can run a fixed cog on both sides of a fixed/free hub, but you're sans lockring on one side.)
I use double stepped hubs that have a lock ring on both sides for a fixed and fixed set up and even on a conversion with horizontal drops you usually have room for a 3 tooth difference in cogs.

Although I could run a freewheel I prefer the fixed / fixed set up on all my bikes.
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Old 01-28-09 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by geeknerd99
I suppose you COULD run a rotafixed cog on a freewheel thread with a BB lockring without too much trouble at the track.

But only the track.
If you want to take a bike like this out on the road you really need to make sure things are set up right... besides the rotafix the cog and lock ring will need red loctite and one should be running a brake.

My Peugeot has been rocking a suicide hub for well over 10,000 km with nary a problem and removing the last cog required the use of a torch and a few extra hands since it was so solidly affixed.
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Old 01-28-09 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
If you want to take a bike like this out on the road you really need to make sure things are set up right... besides the rotafix the cog and lock ring will need red loctite and one should be running a brake.

My Peugeot has been rocking a suicide hub for well over 10,000 km with nary a problem and removing the last cog required the use of a torch and a few extra hands since it was so solidly affixed.
You're absolutely right about the additional steps for road use. I was just assuming track use. Personally I'd never run a suicide hub.
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Old 01-28-09 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by evan811
It seems like a comical idea because even if you flip your wheel over to a different size cog, you will have too much or too little chain to run the other side, so whats the point. Or perhaps I am missing something here?
Older frames with long dropouts have plenty of room for 4 or 5 tooth difference. You'll rarely ever want such a spread in real life. Maybe 2 tooth difference.





Formula fixed/fixed hub with 16/18 Surly Dingle and 16T freewheel. Yes, freewheel cog fits nicely on the hub. If you look closely, you can see an old bottom bracket lockring I put on the hub first as a spacer.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Older frames with long dropouts have plenty of room for 4 or 5 tooth difference. You'll rarely ever want such a spread in real life. Maybe 2 tooth difference.





Formula fixed/fixed hub with 16/18 Surly Dingle and 16T freewheel. Yes, freewheel cog fits nicely on the hub. If you look closely, you can see an old bottom bracket lockring I put on the hub first as a spacer.
Looks like you should drop a link. You can't move the wheel any farther back in the dropout, and you'd need to if you wanted to use the smaller cog.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
...4 or 5 tooth difference. You'll rarely ever want such a spread in real life.
If for some reason you wanted more spread than your dropouts could handle, it wouldn't be a big deal to carry an little bit of extra chain and a 2nd master link. Might add 30 seconds to the gear change process.
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Old 01-29-09 | 02:48 PM
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^that works.

the bike polo crowd tend to desire a normal street gear and a super low polo gear. one setup that has become popular has been to run a surly double cog (17/21) and a double chainring (say, 46/38). that gives a whopping spread of 47.6 and 71.1 gear inches with one chain.

this can also be accomplished with a freehub for a singlespeed. or a regular flip flop hub, creative use of spacers and a double crankset.
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Old 01-29-09 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi
Looks like you should drop a link. You can't move the wheel any farther back in the dropout, and you'd need to if you wanted to use the smaller cog.
It looks like he has a double chainring. He probably uses the smaller cog with the bigger chainring.
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Old 01-29-09 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SpaceFace
It looks like he has a double chainring. He probably uses the smaller cog with the bigger chainring.
You're right. I didn't notice the second ring in the chainline shot.
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