Kilo TT RAW - For those that ask & for opinions
02-06-09 | 09:43 PM
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Donno about bulk painting, but laying down metal flake is a pricey endeavor. A simple motorcycle tank (much flatter surfaces than a bike frame) will cost more than 90% of the bikes on this forum.
Laying even flake on round tubes would be hard, not to mention the many extra steps involved (primer, metalic base, flake+clearcoat, plain clearcoat, and all the finish work.
Laying even flake on round tubes would be hard, not to mention the many extra steps involved (primer, metalic base, flake+clearcoat, plain clearcoat, and all the finish work.
02-07-09 | 01:07 AM
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02-07-09 | 03:36 AM
#38
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I think this might be the right place to ask because the thread's new and it's about Kilos.
I was wondering if there is any chance that one would be able to purchase a Kilo without any of decals. I think I read somewhere that BikeIsland.com has Kilo framesets, but I'd like a built up bike without any decals.
Not feeling the RAW look of that Kilo, by the way.
I was wondering if there is any chance that one would be able to purchase a Kilo without any of decals. I think I read somewhere that BikeIsland.com has Kilo framesets, but I'd like a built up bike without any decals.
Not feeling the RAW look of that Kilo, by the way.
02-07-09 | 05:16 AM
#39
Donno about bulk painting, but laying down metal flake is a pricey endeavor. A simple motorcycle tank (much flatter surfaces than a bike frame) will cost more than 90% of the bikes on this forum.
Laying even flake on round tubes would be hard, not to mention the many extra steps involved (primer, metalic base, flake+clearcoat, plain clearcoat, and all the finish work.
Laying even flake on round tubes would be hard, not to mention the many extra steps involved (primer, metalic base, flake+clearcoat, plain clearcoat, and all the finish work.
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
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02-07-09 | 08:09 AM
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Bikes: 2010 Motobecane Team Track, 1997 GT Edge, 2012 Kilo TT Stripper
I am happy to get all these comments
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
02-07-09 | 12:07 PM
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I am happy to get all these comments
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
02-07-09 | 02:47 PM
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I like the look of the raw. The one thing I didn't like about my Kilo was the durability of the paint (for instance, I dropped my hex wrench when I was adjusting the saddle, and it nicked the paint down to the metal where it hit the downtube!) - if the sealant is going to be more durable, I would be into it.
02-07-09 | 03:35 PM
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02-07-09 | 07:23 PM
#44
So i am looking at July / August to get this bike in
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02-07-09 | 07:32 PM
#45
It is clear that I should get both complete bikes and frameset
And that I should get some in RAW and some in Flake or some very nice special paint
It will take 4 months to get them in; just like all lead times these days
My wife thinks I should call the undecaled version in 'naked' look THE STRIPPER
and put on Gold trim bits; like cages on MKS style track pedals, chain, CR Bolts, etc
I might put a leather seat [taiwan knock off of B17] - but that would increase price by $50
might be something people would like - But I always like keeping prices down
Anyway, frames for sure
the ones we have in stock at BI now are selling like crazy
Thanks for all the input
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02-07-09 | 07:42 PM
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02-07-09 | 07:57 PM
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Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450
I am happy to get all these comments
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
and the one above is spot on - 'custom' paints can be very expensive
A good 'flake' paint like you see on a custom redo of an old vette or 57 chevy would cost a ton
However, I like the idea of a good metailic or flake or something special on an undecaled frame
and I will get some RAW in small numbers to see how they go
Paints I can find that will not increase cost too much have names like:
JEWELED, GEM, GLITTER, LITEBEAM, CONFETTI, STELLAR, GOLDLIT, SILSAND, and SPLASH
some of these may have minimums or preimum prices outside our range; but all would include ranges of reds, purples, golds, blacks, blues, greens, oranges, browns, etc
so I will find something to do with the group of Kilo TT we get that are unmaked [HT decal only]
should be fun
