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Old 05-02-04 | 09:22 PM
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will I have to travel out of the City of Chicago to buy spray paint?

I wanna do a krylon job on my pista...where the funk do I buy spray paint? do i have to go up to evanston????

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Old 05-02-04 | 09:29 PM
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good question. probably so, unless you hit a paint store...unless
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Old 05-02-04 | 09:30 PM
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Unless you have a painter's permit/licence you can't get paint into the city. Suburbs have it though.
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Old 05-03-04 | 06:42 AM
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You really need a license to paint in Chicago? That is outstanding. Do you also need to ask permission before taking a ****?
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Old 05-03-04 | 07:43 AM
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thats right, just come on out to the suburbs! Probably the closest one to you is in Evanston. There is a Home Despot, hate that place, on Oakton about a mile from my house, or I would recomend that you hit Lemoi Ace Hardware in lovely downtown Evanston! Plus Turin Bike shop is right across the street and they have some cool bikes to check out in there. It is right on Davis St.

So you going to strip that thing first? Or just run right over it? need to get rid of those raised letters in my opinion, not that you asked for it, but hey..

And what about the monkey???? should we start playing "Monkey gone to heaven" by the Pixies?
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So do people fingerpaint on the side of subway cars or what?
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Old 05-03-04 | 08:29 AM
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So do people fingerpaint on the side of subway cars or what?

Well of course not, but the whole thing of people stealing all the spray paint was part of why they started keeping the stuff in locked cages. Then the city finally banned it and now you have to hita suburb to get it. also they never let the cars sit in an unsecured yard anymore so it is REALLY hard for people to get in there and tag an el car. The walls are about eight foot high flat concrete slabs topped with razor wire.. not going over that wall.
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Painter's permit/licence only for spray - but all the canned goods you want.
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So do people fingerpaint on the side of subway cars or what?
I use dry macaroni, food dye and elmers glue
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Old 05-03-04 | 09:34 AM
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I use dry macaroni, food dye and elmers glue
Of course you do.
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Of course you do! But when the police come and you need that extra little burst of energy you're supposed to eat the macaroni not the glue!
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Of course you do! But when the police come and you need that extra little burst of energy you're supposed to eat the macaroni not the glue!

tee hee... we tag teamed 165.
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tee hee... we tag teamed 165
That's just plain wrong on so many levels. Do all vikings say "tee hee"? As far as the rest...I'm just pretending I didn't read that.
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the technique I came across is as follows...i may give it a try..i dunno...i really dont have a place to do it, so, i may just wait, and have someone else do it for me...i dunno...randy


1. take all the parts off, mask headset, bb, whatever areas you don't want
to paint

2. sand with 320 grit or whatever rough sandpaper

3. apply thin coat of paint (remember, lots of thin coats, not fewer thick
ones)

4. let dry (I waited about 30 minutes, I think)

5. repeat steps 3 & 4 as many times as you like

6. sand with wet 400 grit sandpaper, wiping with towel to clear sanded bits

7. repeat step 6 with finer sandpaper, working your way up to 1500 or
whenever you want to stop. You'll notice even in the 600 grit range that,
when wet, the paint will look shiny smooth but then will look rough once
it's dry- so keep upping the grit count.

8. finish with rubbing compound ("removes grade 1500 or finer sanding
scratches")

9. put frame on shelf too look at while saving up for parts

Materials (approximate cost):

1- 3M Imperial Wetordry sandpaper assortment pack (P320-P800 grit) ($4)

1- 3M Imperial Wetordry sandpaper pack 1500 grit ($4)

1- 8 oz 3M rubbing compound ($6)

1- roll 3M automotive masking tape ($3)

1- 11 oz can Dupli-Color spray paint ($5)

1- roll paper towels

Depending on how many layers you want to put on, you may need more paint- I
thin did about 6 layers on the panel. Quality masking tape probably isn't
as necessary for a single-color paint job. I doubt I used more than 1oz of
rubbing compound and probably only needed 1 sheet of the 1500 grit- if the
assortment of 1500-2500 grit was in stock, I would have bought that. There
is also a higher-polish rubbing compound that works above 2000 grit or so,
but I wasn't that dedicated to this the first time around.

I was told that heating the spray can makes the mist finer, resulting in a
smoother finish, so I heated a pot of water to somewhat below boiling temp,
maybe in the low/mid-100F range, removed the pot from the stove, and let the
spraycan sit warm up in the water for a few minutes before applying paint.
I did this before each coat of paint. This may or may not be effective, but
I figured it couldn't hurt. Obviously, don't heat the can in the water
while on the stovetop as it could explode.

It might be worth noting that I didn't have any sort of clean room and live
in an area with lots of flying insects, spiders and spiderwebs hanging
about, but I was still able to get a smooth finish, probably because of the
many levels of sanding, though I also tried to avoid heavily-webbed areas,
of course.
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the technique I came across is as follows...i may give it a try..i dunno...i really dont have a place to do it, so, i may just wait, and have someone else do it for me...i dunno...randy
The only thing I'd add to the list is to wash the frame with a solvent, like acetone, before sanding it. If there's gunk on the frame, you might actually sand it into the paint base (assuming you're not completely stripping the bike), affecting adhesion. Thin coats are essential, I find it tougher to paint a bike than a panel and it's easy to misjudge the spray.

As a complete aside, your post inspired me to go try "painting" a junker frame I had with asphalt undercoating. Looks pretty wierd so far...

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The only thing I'd add to the list is to wash the frame with a solvent, like acetone, before sanding it. If there's gunk on the frame, you might actually sand it into the paint base (assuming you're not completely stripping the bike), affecting adhesion. Thin coats are essential, I find it tougher to paint a bike than a panel and it's easy to misjudge the spray.

As a complete aside, your post inspired me to go try "painting" a junker frame I had with asphalt undercoating. Looks pretty wierd so far...

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Please post a picture of this when you're done.
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That's just plain wrong on so many levels. Do all vikings say "tee hee"? As far as the rest...I'm just pretending I didn't read that.
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Old 05-04-04 | 06:31 AM
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You forgot one step Randy:

10- Go to a florist and pick up flowers for girlfriend for putting up with your crazy hobby and the big fat mess you will make.

I know you will clean up the mess Randy, but there is nothing like her getting something out of putting up with your project. Plus brownie points never hurt.
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I can let you use my storage area if you need a place to hang dry the frame.I also have some frame protector if you want. Gimme call if you want to do this.
Maybe ride early this weekend? Should be nice...and bring that really old guy you were talking about, shinglesped or whatever his name is. Youngest rider buys breakkie
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Old 05-04-04 | 07:33 AM
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that old guy... man I am begining to believe that everyday I roll out of bed and my joints start creaking..
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that old guy... man I am begining to believe that everyday I roll out of bed and my joints start creaking..
you guys are hilarious...thanks for the offer 165...good point Singlespeed...

I dunno...I'd have to do it on my back deck, and, its way to windy up there to get any decent results...

I may just chill out for a bit, wait until my job thing pans out, and then pay someone to do it right...at least, pay someone to do it reasonabily right.....

165, a ride this weekend sounds good...maybe early Saturday morning, or Sunday? I have an event Saturday night, so, have to get ready for it around 1 or 2ish, probably...lemme know...

later,randy
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I dunno...I'd have to do it on my back deck, and, its way to windy up there to get any decent results...
Find an old refrigerator carton and cut one side out for a makeshift spraybooth. You can prop your frame on an old milk carton or plastic pail or something. It's slower than hanging it somewhere where you can coat the whole bike at once, but it's better than accidentally leaving a negative image on the deck or recolouring the gardenias or something...
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Old 05-04-04 | 01:29 PM
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tee hee... we tag teamed 165.
Still in denail. All the signs are there, bells are ringing, gate's down, lights flashing.. but still he denies it.

It's ok. Really.
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