Double Straps
#26
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Depends on what kind of riding you're doing. For general commuting/street riding/cruising I just leave my toshi's relatively loose. A uber high quality strap will stay where you set it, and not stretch, or loosen even a mm
With that, if you're trying to haul some ass you'll have to strap em down on your foot, just make sure you won't have to stop anytime soon
With that, if you're trying to haul some ass you'll have to strap em down on your foot, just make sure you won't have to stop anytime soon
#27
I usually don't have to. The leather strap I will sometimes cinch down tighter if I know I'll be really pushing it. The nylon strap is mostly a backup but always remains tight.
#28
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i have used nylon since i started using clips. was using doubles for a while, then when i got the soma hellyer pedals started using only one strap. its not too bad, and i don't have to cinch it down when i ride with my regular shoes, but when i ride with running shoes i do have to tighten it then loosen it when i stop. i don't think i lost anything as far as power transfer by going back to only one strap.
#29
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
#30
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what part of florida...my mom lives in stuart and when ever i go visit all i can think about is how i want to ride a fixed gear all over the place
#31
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
im set on getting new pedals, cages and straps as one of the first mods to my FG (function over fashion), but i have a few questions, statements and concerns i would like to address.
doublestraps:
first of all, there is no ****ing way im going to spend 100 on double straps. no offense, im sure theyre worth it, but i just dont have the money. i found a few less expensive options online, i am wondering if anyone knows anything about these dimension doublestraps, as there are no product reviews on the site. i know there are white synthetic leather at ben's and black (might be synthetic, doesnt say) ones i saw on another site which were "laminated" which im guessing helps them hold up over time? not stretch etc?
cages:
from what i can tell just about everyone rocks some sort of metal cages. can anyone tell me the advantages over plastic? im sure metal doesnt need to be replaced often, but the plastic ones ive found (built for doublestraps) are stupid cheap, so replacement is whatever. the main reason i ask is because sometimes im doing (read: attempting to do) tricks and am a bit nervous about getting my feet out quick enough to catch myself from eating ****. so, im thinking i can ride on the non strap side of the pedal when i want to and not care if the plastic cages are scraping, or at least not as much as i would if they were metal....
pedals:
i have really wide feet, not like some sort of yeti (lolz), but as a point of reference, when i was younger i would have to wear the widest hockey skates they made, and even those were cramping. my feet are wayyy to wide for the pedals i got with the bike. they hang over the edge like crazy. i have seen the MKS whatevers, theres lots of em, but they all have these crazy teeth that are going to destroy my sneakers. so any rec's on a wide pedal without the teeth?
i realize this post was of biblical proportions, but i would really hate to waste money on bad parts. please help.
doublestraps:
first of all, there is no ****ing way im going to spend 100 on double straps. no offense, im sure theyre worth it, but i just dont have the money. i found a few less expensive options online, i am wondering if anyone knows anything about these dimension doublestraps, as there are no product reviews on the site. i know there are white synthetic leather at ben's and black (might be synthetic, doesnt say) ones i saw on another site which were "laminated" which im guessing helps them hold up over time? not stretch etc?
cages:
from what i can tell just about everyone rocks some sort of metal cages. can anyone tell me the advantages over plastic? im sure metal doesnt need to be replaced often, but the plastic ones ive found (built for doublestraps) are stupid cheap, so replacement is whatever. the main reason i ask is because sometimes im doing (read: attempting to do) tricks and am a bit nervous about getting my feet out quick enough to catch myself from eating ****. so, im thinking i can ride on the non strap side of the pedal when i want to and not care if the plastic cages are scraping, or at least not as much as i would if they were metal....
pedals:
i have really wide feet, not like some sort of yeti (lolz), but as a point of reference, when i was younger i would have to wear the widest hockey skates they made, and even those were cramping. my feet are wayyy to wide for the pedals i got with the bike. they hang over the edge like crazy. i have seen the MKS whatevers, theres lots of em, but they all have these crazy teeth that are going to destroy my sneakers. so any rec's on a wide pedal without the teeth?
i realize this post was of biblical proportions, but i would really hate to waste money on bad parts. please help.
#32
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
#33
^^^^^
if you're riding brakeless, you'll want nice straps. get some sort of double strap... cheap ones if you can't afford laminated toshi or mks (or other)
for cages, i like plastic ones... they're really just there to hold my straps up/open... my straps are set tight enough so they don't allow the plastic cages to flex enough to snap... they're cheap and durable (i believe they're )
i like mks gr-9 pedals... platform and don't have any sort of grippy screws or nubs... u might want to try bmx pedals too.
if you're riding brakeless, you'll want nice straps. get some sort of double strap... cheap ones if you can't afford laminated toshi or mks (or other)
for cages, i like plastic ones... they're really just there to hold my straps up/open... my straps are set tight enough so they don't allow the plastic cages to flex enough to snap... they're cheap and durable (i believe they're )
i like mks gr-9 pedals... platform and don't have any sort of grippy screws or nubs... u might want to try bmx pedals too.
#34
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
So, are there double straps that aren't leather, or don't use leather? I'm a vegetarian, and I almost bought some Soma leather straps until I realized that I was almost buying leather.
So is nylon my only real option? Are there good nylon straps versus bad nylon straps? Doubles?
So is nylon my only real option? Are there good nylon straps versus bad nylon straps? Doubles?
#35
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
^^^^^
if you're riding brakeless, you'll want nice straps. get some sort of double strap... cheap ones if you can't afford laminated toshi or mks (or other)
for cages, i like plastic ones... they're really just there to hold my straps up/open... my straps are set tight enough so they don't allow the plastic cages to flex enough to snap... they're cheap and durable (i believe they're )
i like mks gr-9 pedals... platform and don't have any sort of grippy screws or nubs... u might want to try bmx pedals too.
if you're riding brakeless, you'll want nice straps. get some sort of double strap... cheap ones if you can't afford laminated toshi or mks (or other)
for cages, i like plastic ones... they're really just there to hold my straps up/open... my straps are set tight enough so they don't allow the plastic cages to flex enough to snap... they're cheap and durable (i believe they're )
i like mks gr-9 pedals... platform and don't have any sort of grippy screws or nubs... u might want to try bmx pedals too.
#36
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From: brooklyn, ny
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sorry, missed this at first. gr-9 dont have teeth, awesome. but theyre just nowhere near wide enough. i think i will look into bmx pedals, that seems like a good idea. thx!
#37
From what I have read about the cheap doublestraps is that it is generally a waste of money. The dimension and Soma's wear out extremely fast. I have no personal experience with them but I think you'd be better off with a nice set of singles before the ****ty set of doubles.
Read a little more about them before you make that purchase. I have no advice for the crazy wide feet problem, bmx pedals seem like a good solution though.
Read a little more about them before you make that purchase. I have no advice for the crazy wide feet problem, bmx pedals seem like a good solution though.
#38
they suck.
yeah, you might like them for 2 months
until they stretch out and the buckles dont stay tight.
my consumer philosophy is spending a higher amount
on quality and durability once.
you'll eventually replace enough of those craptastic QBP straps
to match the cost of toshi double straps.
if you plan on riding your bike for years to come, think of it as a one-time investment.
and think of dimension straps as a reoccurring expense.
save up
or sell something you own.
toshis are worth it.
yeah, you might like them for 2 months
until they stretch out and the buckles dont stay tight.
my consumer philosophy is spending a higher amount
on quality and durability once.
you'll eventually replace enough of those craptastic QBP straps
to match the cost of toshi double straps.
if you plan on riding your bike for years to come, think of it as a one-time investment.
and think of dimension straps as a reoccurring expense.
save up
or sell something you own.
toshis are worth it.
#39
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From what I have read about the cheap doublestraps is that it is generally a waste of money. The dimension and Soma's wear out extremely fast. I have no personal experience with them but I think you'd be better off with a nice set of singles before the ****ty set of doubles.
Anyone else use Errebi's? They don't seem to get talked up too much around here.
#40
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Seriously though, unless you commonly ride around with the straps tightened, and/or brakeless, there is no reason spend money on double straps, unless you just have the money to blow. Ride around on single straps for a while, and if/when you find that they are severely lacking, then go out and buy some doubles. Upgrade-itis is a serious thing folks.
#41
no
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
#43
FNG
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From: Toronto, ON
Bikes: 2008 IRO Angus, 2008 Jamis Exile 29er
no
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
What a mistake that was!!! I love clipless!
#45
for all of you out there that have toshi doubles, what toe clips are you guys using? single gates or double gates? just curious since i'm looking at upgrading these stock nylon ones.
#46
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From: Toronto, ON
Bikes: 2008 IRO Angus, 2008 Jamis Exile 29er
#48
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
they suck.
yeah, you might like them for 2 months
until they stretch out and the buckles dont stay tight.
my consumer philosophy is spending a higher amount
on quality and durability once.
you'll eventually replace enough of those craptastic QBP straps
to match the cost of toshi double straps.
if you plan on riding your bike for years to come, think of it as a one-time investment.
and think of dimension straps as a reoccurring expense.
save up
or sell something you own.
toshis are worth it.
yeah, you might like them for 2 months
until they stretch out and the buckles dont stay tight.
my consumer philosophy is spending a higher amount
on quality and durability once.
you'll eventually replace enough of those craptastic QBP straps
to match the cost of toshi double straps.
if you plan on riding your bike for years to come, think of it as a one-time investment.
and think of dimension straps as a reoccurring expense.
save up
or sell something you own.
toshis are worth it.
Seriously though, unless you commonly ride around with the straps tightened, and/or brakeless, there is no reason spend money on double straps, unless you just have the money to blow. Ride around on single straps for a while, and if/when you find that they are severely lacking, then go out and buy some doubles. Upgrade-itis is a serious thing folks.
no
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
there is a difference between singles and doubles.
once you go double, you dont go back.
but, in all honesty, if you're going to spend 100 on toshis, 25 on gr9s, and 15 on clips
you might as well pick up some 45 dollar atacs and a pair of 90 dollar shoes
and get a real bang for your buck.
does that mean you are selling your clips and straps then?
Last edited by oneangrytoast; 02-21-09 at 09:10 AM.
#49
its that damned rap music
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From: brooklyn, ny
Bikes: Kilo TT, Bianchi Pista Concept 2005, Shogun 600 ~1983
cages:
from what i can tell just about everyone rocks some sort of metal cages. can anyone tell me the advantages over plastic? im sure metal doesnt need to be replaced often, but the plastic ones ive found (built for doublestraps) are stupid cheap, so replacement is whatever. the main reason i ask is because sometimes im doing (read: attempting to do) tricks and am a bit nervous about getting my feet out quick enough to catch myself from eating ****. so, im thinking i can ride on the non strap side of the pedal when i want to and not care if the plastic cages are scraping, or at least not as much as i would if they were metal....




