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Old 03-21-09, 07:11 AM
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Numb wrists

My wrists and hands start to go numb after I ride for a few miles. I've got a plain riser bar with Oury grips, now. Would changing to drop bars possibly help this?
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Old 03-21-09, 08:15 AM
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i vouch.

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Old 03-21-09, 08:39 AM
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A drop bar will give you more hand positions, so if your hands start going numb in one position you can easily switch to another.
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Old 03-21-09, 09:07 AM
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how many inches do you have between saddle height and bar height?
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Old 03-21-09, 10:03 AM
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could be your saddle to bar drop, or your stem length... meaning in some way or another you're putting too much weight on your wrists so it's straining them
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Old 03-21-09, 10:13 AM
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Keep moving your hands - even moving 1/2" inboard and back outboard can give you a few seconds to relax and keep the blood flowing.
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Old 03-21-09, 10:44 AM
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I'm not real sure what the height difference is between the saddle and the bar. Bike isn't here right now. But I do know the frame is on the small side for me... it's a 51.5cm and I really need a 54.
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Old 03-21-09, 11:05 AM
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bend your elbows when you ride.
make sure you're not sliding forward on your saddle.
too much weight on your hands/wrists.
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Old 03-21-09, 11:39 AM
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the problem with cut risers is they're really stiff vs drops or bullhorns. if you need risers, get carbon ones. otherwise, man up or switch.

(a carbon fork helps too; so does a titanium or longer steel stem)

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Old 03-21-09, 11:43 AM
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It's probably more of a fit problem than actual component issue. You specifically said, after "a few" miles. You shouldn't be getting wrist numbness within that time. With risers, we're talking one hand position, so you're likely get fatigued, but not go numb.

Check this out: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/pain.html#posture

You probably have your wrist at a too extreme angle, pinching a nerve or something.
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Old 03-21-09, 05:21 PM
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its your ourys dude...

i had the same problems... when your riding for long periods of time the extra cush in the ourys settle in on your nerves in and around the palms. they are great for the padding, but it works like a double edged sword. theyre designed for mountain riding. the second i switched to bmx grips, the problem went away. hand positions are nice, but if you like the aggressive feel and practicality of risers then switch out those mf'n ourys!
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Old 03-21-09, 05:41 PM
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wear gloves. I started riding with gloves out of necessity this winter, and it really helps.
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Old 03-21-09, 07:21 PM
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gloves and grips should correct this. there's a nerve at the base of your pinky finger on your palm that tends to get pinched while riding. if too much pressure is placed on it for too long, you're going to get numbness in the wrists and sometimes up the arms. drop some cash on a good pair of gloves with a pad in that area (as well as the base of your thumb on your palm) and your numbness should subside.
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Old 03-21-09, 07:54 PM
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padding is just a band-aid.
solve the problem first, then add comfort.
and the problem sounds like a fit and posture issue.
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When you're riding definitely try to think in your mind to to balance your weight and not put too much pressure on your wrists. Do this by bending your elbows and using muscles in your back etc etc.
If you can't then mess around with stem and seat height.
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Old 03-21-09, 08:23 PM
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Adjust the fit, so that more of the weight is on your seat/legs vs. your hands.

There are a variety of factors in play here, so some of the options are:
1. Get a properly sized frame and then build that one up appropriately. This is the most expensive, but best option.

2. Adjust the seat angle. If it's angled too far forward, you'll be putting your weight on your wrists, so angling it back and making it flatter might help. (This is free, but the downside is that if your bars are too low, and you're not very flexible, a less angled seat may mean you're putting too much weight on the horn of your saddle which gets very uncomfortable very fast.)

3. Adjust the handlebar height. a) Get a set of handlebars with a higher rise. b) If you've got a threaded fork, raise the stem / replace the stem. If you've got a threadless fork, get a steering tube extender and mount your handlebars on that, and maybe get a shorter stem as well.

4. As the previous poster said, vary your position in and out on your Oury's. Sometimes an inch or two of range helps make things more comfortable.

You can also play with seat height/fore-aft position, but those are the major items to getting your bike fitting properly.

Good luck!
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Old 03-21-09, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Geordi LaForge
padding is just a band-aid.
solve the problem first, then add comfort.
and the problem sounds like a fit and posture issue.
I agree.

It sounds like a neck issue to me, and this relates not so much to the relative height of the saddle and bars as much as it relates to the horizontal distance from the saddle to the bars, and the fore and aft location of the saddle in relation to the pedals.

Now, if he said his hands HURT, I would say take weight of the handlebars and put more weight on the saddle.

But he didn't say that: he said his hands get NUMB, which almost always suggests a neck/posture issue.
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Old 03-21-09, 10:59 PM
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It's the Ulnar nerve (most likely), and since it has to go over the first thoracic vertebra, craning your neck tightens the muscles around it, thus causing numbness.
It could also be from riding on rough road or gripping the handlebars too tight (or any combination of the 3), as those can cause trauma and stress to the nerve as well.
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Old 03-22-09, 10:11 AM
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Some people feel "wonky" when trying to go to drops. A good alternative is bullhorns. They let you move around a lot, like drops do. I read, and agree with, the idea that you should move your hand position every 10 mins or so. Don't lock the elbows out either! I hope this helps.
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Old 03-22-09, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SSBully View Post
Some people feel "wonky" when trying to go to drops. A good alternative is bullhorns. They let you move around a lot, like drops do. I read, and agree with, the idea that you should move your hand position every 10 mins or so. Don't lock the elbows out either! I hope this helps.

I agree. When I got my IRO with drops it was hard for me to climb hills with the hand positions that they offer, I definitley felt "wonky" on then. I had drops on my road bike and for some reason it worked on that but not on my fixed gear. I switched to bullhorns the other day and its so much more comfortable than the drops. I highly recommend the bullhorns.
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Old 03-23-09, 08:00 AM
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I also wanted to add that there ar a few different types of bullhorns. Sometimes you'll see them listed as Aero basebars, or pursuit bars, etc. The real difference between them is how the tubing is shaped, some more aerodynamic, or flat, than others, and whether or not there is any drop to them. Some have a drop just after it leaves the stem clamping area, and others just come out flat. You just have to play around with them and find the style that works best for you!
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Old 03-23-09, 01:18 PM
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1. bend your elbows.
2. arch your back like a pissed cat
3. make sure you leave the extreme saddle/stem drop on the track.

*if you feel yourself completely supporting your upper body with your hands, you're too steep for a daily ride. there should be some sort of balance between the weight carried on the seat/legs/arms. too much on any one part and you give up something else. its why track drops are so low compared to road drops. on the track, the discomfort yeilds a more aero positioning, on the road, this wouldn't be a good trade off.
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Old 03-23-09, 03:28 PM
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Try some Ergon Grips. They are super comfortable and distribute your weight much better over your hands.

http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/grips/i...2sch8sa21ou143
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Originally Posted by nightfly View Post
Try some Ergon Grips. They are super comfortable and distribute your weight much better over your hands.

http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/grips/i...2sch8sa21ou143
you may also have luck with specialized's line of body geometry grips, which seem similar to those.
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I got a shorter stem and it took the pressure off my wrists. It also helps if you don't 'wrist one off' for a week or two as well.
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