Twisted spoke wheels
05-26-04 | 12:26 PM
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Twisted spoke wheels
Like the rear wheel in this pic https://www.chubhub.com/photo.php?loc=photos/photo_5.jpg
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
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05-26-04 | 12:55 PM
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05-26-04 | 12:56 PM
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Unknown, but I love them to death! The local wheelbuilding celebrity at 'Gravy Wheels' won't build them because of supposed strength issues, but I've got many thousands of miles of popping curbs and getting hit by cars on them with nary a problem. Hell, they're still true.
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05-26-04 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lucklust
Unknown, but I love them to death! The local wheelbuilding celebrity at 'Gravy Wheels' won't build them because of supposed strength issues, but I've got many thousands of miles of popping curbs and getting hit by cars on them with nary a problem. Hell, they're still true.
I had a big
over that.
05-27-04 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by panasoanic
In The Art of Wheelbuilding, Schraner first warns about how weak twisted spokes are and then writes something along the lines of "it's better for kids to roll spokes than to roll joints."
It's a good idea for a useless lowrider show bike. A silly idea for a bike that is actually ridden. Especially one that's ridden hard, as I suspect many SS/fixies are.
05-27-04 | 02:49 AM
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*gack* That bike would be an awful ride. The Chub guys went to enormous lengths to prove that 'larger flanges are better', yet still end up with a hub heavier than a regular hub WITH a cassette freewheel mechanism, and provide no other benefits other than decreasing and dissipating the forces the hub sees under load.
Still, not a bad option if you want to plop 190 bucks down for a simple rear hub I guess.
Not sure what the benefit of twisted spokes are. Never heard any arguements for them that were even vaguely convincing.
Still, not a bad option if you want to plop 190 bucks down for a simple rear hub I guess.
Not sure what the benefit of twisted spokes are. Never heard any arguements for them that were even vaguely convincing.
05-27-04 | 11:52 AM
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Change the back wheel and it would. Chubhubs and twisted spokes are pointless gimmicks; gimme a Phil high flange laced three cross (keep the Shamals though 
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12-03-04 | 09:23 PM
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12-03-04 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Shadow
12-04-04 | 12:06 AM
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twisted spoke wheels are a bad choice in my opinion unless you are riding trials. they have no benefit for a road or track bike. the twisting adds a HUGE damping factor which is only beneficial in large wheel impacts, as seen in trials. for a road/track not a good idea bc you get zero road feedback
12-04-04 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
Like the rear wheel in this pic https://www.chubhub.com/photo.php?loc=photos/photo_5.jpg
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
12-04-04 | 03:51 PM
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Does anyone have any info on building twisty wheels? Specifically - calculating spoke lengths.
I can't find anything online - and I'd like to make a front like yours lucklust.
I'd like to do it myself - but I don't want to go through multiple sets of spokes to get it right.
Makes me wish I had a phil wood spoke cutter.
I can't find anything online - and I'd like to make a front like yours lucklust.
I'd like to do it myself - but I don't want to go through multiple sets of spokes to get it right.
Makes me wish I had a phil wood spoke cutter.
12-04-04 | 04:02 PM
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I read something somewhere by someone who made twisted spoke wheels that they just added something like 3mm to each spoke as calculated for x3 or something. I'm no expert, but seems like you would need more.
I may be wrong, but it looks like Lucklust's wheels there are 2x, twisting a full turn at the upper cross. Maybe you could size your spokes (with a calculator) for 3x then do 2x with a twist?
I may be wrong, but it looks like Lucklust's wheels there are 2x, twisting a full turn at the upper cross. Maybe you could size your spokes (with a calculator) for 3x then do 2x with a twist?
12-04-04 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Spoke length for rims and hubs + 1mm = twisted spoke length.
although i think that twisted spokes have their place in cycling as i stated earlier in this thread, i will agree that they looking damn cool while spinning. no disrespect BOOYYYEEEEEE
12-04-04 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by legalize_it
twisted spoke wheels are a bad choice in my opinion unless you are riding trials. they have no benefit for a road or track bike. the twisting adds a HUGE damping factor which is only beneficial in large wheel impacts, as seen in trials.
12-04-04 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
Like the rear wheel in this pic https://www.chubhub.com/photo.php?loc=photos/photo_5.jpg
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
Where can you get them built? I have to admit I just love the look.
I believe Reload has them on their site. If not them, they may know people.