Adriano---I know it's terrible. Haha. It's just that w/ nice steel I can tell such a difference. Especially when pumping up a hill.

Sputnik does have a low BB, but I run w/ 165mm cranks and I haven't had a single pedal strike (and I like to take some tight corners)

I didn't think about bareknuckle or geekhouse though. Those are both really cool. My friend has a BK and it is a nice looking bike...feels great too. I thought they discontinued it, though?

Gotcha, gotcha ... yeah ... I actually have a shirt from them I won in an alleycat ... seems like they make some really slick frames. Never ridden one, but they look like quality handmade bikes. I was surprised to learn they were attainable actually. Hah.

Most renters insurance will cover a fair amount of loss. When I got my policy I only had to put riders on it for my computers (up to about 3-4000, I forget exactly) and my fiance's ring. Since I have receipts for all the stuff I've purchased for my bike, I should be set if it ever gets stolen. I highly recommend renters insurance. I only pay ~$100 a year for almost 30,000 in coverage and $200,000 in liability coverage.

Yes, i do not have renters, but luckily my parents home owner's insurance covers me since I am a dependable on taxes (don't get me wrong i pay for my own ****, it just helps their taxes while i am in college). The problem is the high deductible, $500, but i was able to get a shop to make a pretty high estimate (which was pretty legit considering hand pro laced wheels, new fork, fenders, etc)


So I have now changed my mind to either the Bareknuckle or a Debernardi Thron or the Torelli Corsa Pista. discuss... (or change my mind again)

Pista Concept?

No looking for an ALU frame. They are just too harsh and delicate. Steal is real.

Once again, I present to you:
https://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/pr...roducts_id=307
Outstanding reputation, including shipping charges from England this thing is still cheaper than a Bareknuckle, Debernardi or the Torelli. And if such things matter to you, made in England and not China.

From Bob Jackson Cycles, "Please note delivery now approx 7 weeks" This is quite a while. I was hoping to have something ready in the next 2 weeks. But is it really worth waiting that long? I mean i could build up something cheap, and sell the frame when it comes in if it is worth it.

and the 3 i mentioned above are made in Italy (according to all my research).

has anyone actually gotten in touch with bob jackson? i have been wanting a road frame from him, and emailed trying to get some geometry specs. its been months, and i have emailed them 4 times, and never gotten a response.

im always hesitant to deal with someone that doesn't respond to emails. even if they are really backed up, they should take the time to tell you they will get it to you asap.

i found that calling them for information is best.

all orders are done through the website though.

Has the Marinoni Pista been mentioned? The frame can be had for around $600.

Noted, i will be going to montreal this weekend, so we I will check out!

the Marinoni, the Torelli Corsa Pista, and the Geekhouse can't be had till mid to end of August.

3rensho

its called renters insurance and if you have multiple bikes and no renters insurance, you are pretty dumb.

where would i go about getting one of these?

Marinoni Pista? I've never ridden one, but I like them! They've got steel or aluminum

ebay is probably your best bet.

SOrry to hijack your thread but where would be the best place to get used NJS frames besides eBay?

https://njs-keirin.blogspot.com/

just bought a toyo godzilla and i love it. if you like the bareknuckle the updated version is just so much nicer

I would go with the bob jackson. nice tubing, and a reeaaaalllly nice looking frame. worth the wait.

I'm going to get one this fall. no doubt.

I would go with Mercian or Bob Jackson or Torelli.

maybe its different in boston, but here in LA i got my used NJS frame (with TT dent from bars, covered it with a kashimax) for 550, and I see undented ones for 700-800 on occasion. perhaps worth getting shipped? its a sweet deal i love my Eimei NJS

i have a jamis w/ 170 crank arms. got one pedal strike, but i was banking a tight tight turn and was goin really fast. other than that i been fine ever since.