OK see here's the deal.

EVERYONE'S always like omfg Deep V's are more aerodynamic and Aerospoke's are Faster and have better Power transfer because they have no spokes to bend..

wtf.. does all of this REALLY make u THAT much more faster that a normal.. lets say Mavic open pro?

What is really a faster wheel.. that's not more than $300

is it the aerodynamics or the light weight or maybe even the tires?

Fitness!

I run Deep V's on one of my fixed commuters and it definitely gets the job done, but I think that while they are great wheels there is also a lot of hype that goes with them. Yeah, they look great (I have a set of wood grain Deep V's and I love the way they look) but the set of Open Pro's I have on my other fixed commuter get the job done equally as well without the cost or the weight of a boat anchor. The two bikes have the same tires, tubes, air pressure, and till recently they had the same gearing. My average speeds over the last four months are within 2/10ths of a mile per hour of each other. When there are severe crosswinds on my commute I definitely feel the "push" with my Deep V's...not nearly as much with the low profile of the Open Pros. The Deep V's are definitely more bombproof than the Open Pros though.

But really, the only way to be faster is to have your engine well maintained and running at top performance.

good hubs and strong legs?

For the same power output, off the line a lighter rim/tire combo will be faster. It takes less power to bring it up to maximum speed.

Over the long (really long) haul (excepting things like hellacious crosswinds) a deep section rim offers an aerodynamic advantage that can shave time off a ride. However, it's at a sacrifice for comfort. I wouldn't want to spend 10 hours on a bike with 45mm aeros.

What kind of riding do you do? Light to light sprinting downtown will be faster on a lightweight setup. Open road cruising with minimal stops (and not much climbing) will be faster on a deep aero.

starting a thread with blatant lies is horrible form, fy.

Open Pro will be way "faster" than a deep v or aerospoke. Aerospokes especially are crap. Deep Vs are heavy. I would go w/ Open Pro if I were to build up a wheelset right now.

yup yup. get mavic open pros or ellipses w/bladed spokes

Faster? Strong legs are faster. Also, gears.

If you're riding a fixed gear on the road, speed is not your main target. Simplicity, fashion, fun, mystical connection to the gods of bicyling, etc... great. The wheel attributes of you mention are BS, but that's irrelevant because the wheels you mention are far too close to each other in to justify choosing one over the other based on performance for a non-track fixed gear.

Aerospokes look cool, but I like building wheels, so I went with Deep Vs.

I notice my wheels are faster when I pedal harder...

For street riding it doesnt matter a lot.

Being fairly strong, and knowing your way around will make up more time than any wheels you toss on.

I like a light shallow rim for all around, since youre stopping and going so much. I run some volos with 20/24 spokes and ive had them trued once, and on the rear that was due to some hellacious circumstances of a chain falling and catching and bending a spoke. So I dont buy that shallow rims cant be 'bomb proof'. Granted I keep the rubber on the ground, but I do ride this on very long rides. I do think this trend of really deep rims like the b43 pretty funny on wheels that very well may never see the track. And aerojokes just make me laugh period.

If I had $300 bones and needed a some good wheels I would probably buy some aeroheads, lace them to some dura ace low flange with some basic double butted spokes. Not the best winter wheels, not the coolest, but theyd be smooth and light. If you wanted to save a couple bones and have something better for the winter with sealed bearing maybe the miches.
Or if you want something flashy, dont buy an aerojoke, get a trispoke or something thats at least aero.

If you want marginally faster wheels you better be ready to cough up at least 500 buckaroos and from there up.

not really having any idea what you're talking about but posting like you do is also poor form.

as has been discussed here before, one of the main things you're likely to notice is reduced rotational/angular intertia— ie a lighter rim, tube, and tire. this makes your acceleration 'snappier' as you're not fighting as much weight into motion.

this is one of the main reasons (but not the only one) that open pros, at around 435g, are often recommended over deep Vs, at around 580g. however, if you're going to throw on a thick, wire-beaded tire, you may as well save your cash. quality tires will weigh less and have better road feel, but often won't last as long.

I just installed my Spinergy RevX wheelset, lightweight and one of the most aero designs ever!

On my first ride, I noticed that my acceleration was amazing! I have never started off the line so fast! and then I found I could maintain a really high top speed with such little effort! I couldn't believe what had happened to my bike!

Then I reached the bottom of the hill.....

https://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-020/index.html

Thx for ruining my joke

open pros are very nice, but this is an incorrect blanket statement.

for us mere mortals riding the street on fixed gears, lighter rims are always going to be more beneficial than aero deep sectons. the only problem being cost/durabilty, but with this said i always try to build the lightest wheels i can afford and i dont do tricks on them.

aero wheels are more important on geared bikes as you spend more time at a speed were the aero properties becomes useful. also street riding generaly doesnt allow you to have long drags of high speed like riding in the country on gears does, so its prefrable to have better accleration for lights and nipping through traffic.

velocity deep-Vs arnt really as bomb proof as people seem to think. they are stronger than most race rims, but they are also heavier so its not really supprising. if you want a proper strong rim look into touring stuff, probably not deep section but nice and strong. but going down this strong rim route is moving away from the reason why we ride lightweight minimal fixed gears, i so i suggest getting the lightest wheels you can with the best hubs you can afford and dont ride like a moron.


the best wheels are those that are very light and aero, but for this kinda of thing your gonna need some £££ and a spare set of wheels for when you wana ride some dirty stuff.

no, it's not. Aerospokes are crap. Deep Vs are heavy. Aero wheels don't benefit people who ride on risers w/ jeans.

yes,

it is.

in the context of this forum, it is not a blanket statement. That statement would hold true for 99% of the riders in this forum. But, w/e, I'm not gonna get drawn into some petty argument with u over stupid stuff. Quit being such a sarcastic, annoying prick.

i see.

I weigh 240lb and 99% of my riding is commuting so the aero properties of my wheels are a much lower priority than their ability to survive the untold abuse of riding down stairs, jumping curbs, glancing off car body panels, hitting big potholes, and occasionally getting caught in the train doors as they close. I'm not gentle with my bikes either, I like to hammer thru the urban environment.

Deep-V rims are pretty good for taking abuse because their triangular-ish section is an exellent design from a structural integrity point of view. The fact that they may be a bit more aero is just a happy coincidence for me.

As for speed, when you're wearing street clothes and hauling a full mes bag on your back, a few ounces of weight either way or the profile of your rims will be totally insignificant.

Lightweight tires with a low rolling resistance will also have a large effect. When I switched out my Everwears for michelins Krylion all around I noticed a huge difference right off the bat. Of course, tires and wheels both have the same plusses and minuses. You will always sacrifice durability for lighter weight, or vice versa.