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Old 09-24-09, 08:06 PM
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why do people think radial looks good? I think it looks cheesy.
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Originally Posted by bionnaki
why do people think radial looks good? I think it looks cheesy.
why do people think radial looks cheesy? I think it looks good.
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Originally Posted by Darwin401k
Why stay away from radial fronts on a high flange hub with the thin tubular rim?
Because radial spoking -- regardless of rim type -- put far higher stress on the hub flange and makes for a significantly weaker wheel. There are a few *special cases* where a radially spoked wheel makes sense for racing, but that does not obviate the disadvantages. It only means that the perceived advantage outweights the documented disadvantages. In short, radially spoke wheels should be considered to be disposable items.
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Originally Posted by Yo!
But the OP said he's not using these on street; I say radial would be fine, especially for track use. Does Suzue warranty flange failures from radial lacing?.
On the contrary, the OP explicitly stated "What's the strongest lacing pattern for minimal use on the street?"

I don't think *anybody* warranties hubs against failure with radial spoking. The only place radial spoking makes some degree of sense is on the track, and with the understanding that the wheels will have a limited lifespan. There's absolutely no reason, besides making a (expensive) fashion statement, to use radial spoking on the road.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
In short, radially spoke wheels should be considered to be disposable items.
I disagree with your blanket statement. My own experience is to the contrary, and I can offer two specific examples of radially spoked front wheels that have not failed after extensive use and abuse. Both of these cases involve old school hubs with J bend spokes, and not more modern direct pull spokes:

Example #1: Track racing wheel, Campy Record Pista high flange, 28 hole, bladed spokes (hub flanges were slotted to permit insertion of the spokes), 30 years old, used for track racing, has survived several bad crashes.

Example #2: Road training wheel, Shimano Dura Ace low flange, 28 hole, round spokes 14ga, over 10 years old, over 10K accumulated miles, used on bad rough roads, potholes etc.

Neither of these hubs show any signs of distress, and the spoke tension has been maintained. The wheels have remained true.
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I don't think *anybody* warranties hubs against failure with radial spoking.
Phil Wood hubs are warrantied under radial lacing.

In short, radially spoke wheels should be considered to be disposable items.
I've personally never seen a radial failure on a bike that's not being tricked, including any of my own.
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