TMonk

Hey that may be, but atleast i'm not delusional.

Personally I'd rather get caught stroking myself than stroking someone else.

bionnaki

what the hell are you talking about? put down the angel dust.

crazyed27

If St Louis Had Bike Messengers I would do it this winter for the exercise, excitement, and biking experience...after working 9 years in a Warehouse in different roles...Messaging would be a great change of pace! Just sayin.

dubbs5050

I was a messenger for 10 months in NYC because the economy was **** and I had trouble getting a job. I have a bike (FG w/brake and I wore a helmet if it matters) and I decided to give it a shot, and to tell you the truth, it was the most fun I have ever had doing a job...you really have to bust your ass if you want to make money, and even then it isn't much. But I made it work, living with my fiancee in a nice Brooklyn apartment. It is true that being a messenger does not promise much of a career...however, the owner of my former company used to be a messenger in his 20s, then he broke off and started his own company...he then built his business and ended up acquiring other messenger businesses in NYC....now, he is a ****ing millionaire, if you can believe that. Bottom line is that you can make money doing whatever you want, just gotta do it right and commit. So shove it right up your ass you greedy ****, I'm not a damn loser because I was a messenger, and actually am doing quite well now in advertising....I literally hope you lose all your money and family and die hungry and alone...you deserve it.

dubbs5050

by the way, this was directed at that ****monger "investment banker" (talk about a loser) and not the OP

beeftech

What is a bike messenger with out a girlfriend?











Broke.

Johnny Colnago

Would you like a blanky and some hot cocoa?
HTFU you sound like a whiny little girl. Save your life story for people who give a ****.
Now get back to trying to market gay pporn or whatever it is you ***** ad ppl do. lol
chop chop!

bbattle

It's all Kevin Bacon's fault.

preston811

..

Metzinger

On an important side note, I got down to two degrees from Kevin last summer.
I met someone who claimed the Bacons as family friends.
But now I've forgotten who it was, so I'm back to six.

the_don

I think I was trying to get across the point of "the career potential of being a messenger is not very good."

I ain't an investment banker, I don't make a load of cash at the moment and I work hard, but I know that if I keep at it I will get more money in the future and hopefully earn enough to buy an apartment and have a family. I am sure there are stories of people who set up their own messenger company and made a lot of cash, congratulations. But that isn't really typical lifestory story of the job and he is clearly not a loser. I must add that in many areas, you find losers who never seek to improve themselves and are content to just get by, drinking and partying and not thinking of the future.

For the record, I have nothing against messengers and if i was younger, at uni or looking for my first career job I would probably love to work for a while, getting to ride and earn a bit of cash. I don't think messengers are losers, but it is more of a side job. If the said messenger was like 40 something and earning just enough to get by to feed and pay for the family, then I would say that is a loser.

Maybe the reason I came across a bit strongly was because there are a few people who post things like "I want to move to the city to become and messenger". I don't know if they plan to do it as a career. Does anyone think that? I don't know. I just wanted to get the message out that if you spend 5 years doing it, then you don't have much employ-ability at the end of it, unless you have moved into the office and are managing the biz or something.

Retro Grouch 

"Let's forget fad and fashion for a moment"

You do realize this is "Singlespeed and Fixed Gear". It's all about fad and fashion. So what's your point?

ToeCutter66

Quote:

Originally Posted by elTwitcho

Determining someone's merit or worth (calling them a "loser") based on their financial prospects is a hollow and pointless existence

That describes me, almost exactly. Mid 40s I take pills for just about everything, abuse others, both natural and synthetic. I have 2 kids, big ass mortgage, 3 car payments, 1 boat payment, ****load of credit card debt. I have been trying to fill the emptiness with material possessions, electric guitars, motorcycles, guns etc, and I am still a looser.

When I was a kid the only thing I wanted to be when I grew up was to be carpenter. My parents said hell no, you are going to college, where I barely opened a book, but did graduate, got an office job, and now all I do is sit in a cubicle and sexually harass the women all day. And with this economy being in the toilet, none of the baby boomers are retiring, so any chance of career advancement has been put on hold.

So if you are still young, and enjoy your work, don?t change to meet anyone else?s expectations.

TRaffic Jammer

^^^ We NEED younger people to take up trades. They've been vilified by so many generations of parents' that the only remaining trades people in so many industries are all older men.^^^


I've met him and his wife while walking down the street in Toronto.

icyclist 

"I literally hope you lose all your money and family and die hungry and alone...you deserve it."

It's good to know you've lowered yourself to the same level of the person you're complaining about.

TRaffic Jammer

The mantra for the new millennium should be to fill your heart before your bank account. Passion keeps life going, chasing the buck (unless that's your passion) is at times downright harmful.

Brian

I did that for a while. But the people I dealt with were jerks, and the easy money ran out. Left me rather disheartened.

elTwitcho

When you allow someone to make you angry, you allow them to control you.

Maybe you came across a bit strongly because some of us (myself included) consider judging somebody by their financial status to be pathetic. Since you continue to do so, I think most people stick by what they said in this thread. I think your perspective is a very unfortunate one and in my eyes, is pretty sad.

Word

jet sanchEz

It seems now as if every cyclist in Toronto has a Chrome or Frietag messenger bag now, both of which are very expensive.

Sixty Fiver

Our city's top bike messenger has family, a nice home, and makes 60k a year.

I had to retire from the job due to an unrelated injury... I worked for a good company and was making good money (Canada differs from the US on this) and if I was still out there I'd be pulling down 40k a year and be the lead biker for the company.

Those who say the job requires no skills or is just for losers can kiss my ass.

Most of you wouldn't last a week before you either became road kill or found yourself curled up in a corner rocking back and forth.

I have a lot of respect for the guys who do this and most here (I know them all) have been doing it for a very long time.

TRaffic Jammer

True Dat ^^^ you don't pull off messing for years with no skills

robotphood

Ditto, the_don who are you arguing with? Gee, wouldn't the world be oh so perfect if everyone could have careers they love and get paid well at the same time...

Sixty Fiver

Of the 20 or so messengers who work here there is only one I know of who rides a brake-less fixed gear... he's 18 years old and very good at his job and keeps telling me he will put his brake back on.

As messengers here are covered by worker's compensation running without a brake could affect their benefits if they went down while on the job... I always run a brake(s) on my fg bikes and people would expect no less from a brake nazi like myself.