Track Nuts That Take an Allen Wrench
#3
Pants are for suckaz
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,578
Likes: 1
From: Mt. Airy, MD
Bikes: Hardtail MTB, Fixed gear, and Commuter bike
#4
you must have some weak a** arms then. I crank my axle down tight and the thing doesn't budge, never has under any circumstance.
To the OP, not sure where you can buy allen axle nuts except that phil wood and a few other hubs come with them
To the OP, not sure where you can buy allen axle nuts except that phil wood and a few other hubs come with them
#9
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
#11
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
I have the wrench from Eighth Inch, but this one is smaller, and you could easily stow it on your bike, maybe with a velcro strap or something similar. And it fits in your pocket. And it costs less.
Handsome Ryan might suggest gluing one of those fancy new magnets to the underside of your seat, and stashing this in there. Who would ever think to look there?
Handsome Ryan might suggest gluing one of those fancy new magnets to the underside of your seat, and stashing this in there. Who would ever think to look there?
#14
Pants are for suckaz
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,578
Likes: 1
From: Mt. Airy, MD
Bikes: Hardtail MTB, Fixed gear, and Commuter bike

I've been quite happy with my Pedros Trixie. I throw it in my bag if I'll be locking my bike up on the street, otherwise i leave it wing-screwed to the bottle cage mount.
#15
jack of one or two trades
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,640
Likes: 0
From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Barring buying new hubs, I'm not aware of any product that lets you go from using standard 14 or 15mm track nuts to allen bolts. Sorry. Just better 15mm wrenches.
#16
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
I totally missed that. Unless you're running a 9mm QR axle, you cannot use allen nuts. There is no way for them to work with a solid axle.
#18
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
#19
For biking, my body wins over yours. Have fun doing chin ups!
#20
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,866
Likes: 923
From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 82 wheels
Lots of confusion and mixed metaphors in this thread:
1) No such thing as an allen nut. A "nut" is an internally threaded fastener that mates with an externally threaded item such as a solid axle. A "nut" has the wrench flats on the outside. An "allen" fastener is externally threaded with internal wrench flats and is technically a "bolt". You cannot connect two externally threaded fasteners (bolts).
2) The example shown by the OP is a bolt-on skewer, which works with hollow axles, and does not thread onto the axle. It works well with front wheels which have vertical dropouts, but should not be used with horizontal rear dropouts unless they have tugnuts or adjuster screws, since they cannot be tightened sufficiently to prevent axle slippage. It is not an allen nut, but a skewer with an allen head at one end and threads at the other that mates with nut. The nut is aluminum, and due to the very small diameter of the thread, it can strip out very easily if overtightened. I know this from personal experience with that very same skewer (Zipp).
3) Some track hubs such as Phil use an allen bolt that threads directly into internal threads in the axle ends. These are not hollow axles and do not use skewers. Since the threads are smaller diameter than on normal externally threaded track axles and the wrench flats are also smaller, they cannot be tightened as securely. I once had a front wheel like this (Mavic IO), but have never tried it with a rear wheel.
4) It is not necessary to carry a foot long box wrench to properly tighten the axle nuts. I've used a Campy peanut butter wrench at the track, and have yet to pull a wheel during standing starts and sprints.
1) No such thing as an allen nut. A "nut" is an internally threaded fastener that mates with an externally threaded item such as a solid axle. A "nut" has the wrench flats on the outside. An "allen" fastener is externally threaded with internal wrench flats and is technically a "bolt". You cannot connect two externally threaded fasteners (bolts).
2) The example shown by the OP is a bolt-on skewer, which works with hollow axles, and does not thread onto the axle. It works well with front wheels which have vertical dropouts, but should not be used with horizontal rear dropouts unless they have tugnuts or adjuster screws, since they cannot be tightened sufficiently to prevent axle slippage. It is not an allen nut, but a skewer with an allen head at one end and threads at the other that mates with nut. The nut is aluminum, and due to the very small diameter of the thread, it can strip out very easily if overtightened. I know this from personal experience with that very same skewer (Zipp).
3) Some track hubs such as Phil use an allen bolt that threads directly into internal threads in the axle ends. These are not hollow axles and do not use skewers. Since the threads are smaller diameter than on normal externally threaded track axles and the wrench flats are also smaller, they cannot be tightened as securely. I once had a front wheel like this (Mavic IO), but have never tried it with a rear wheel.
4) It is not necessary to carry a foot long box wrench to properly tighten the axle nuts. I've used a Campy peanut butter wrench at the track, and have yet to pull a wheel during standing starts and sprints.
#22
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
Lots of confusion and mixed metaphors in this thread:
1) No such thing as an allen nut. A "nut" is an internally threaded fastener that mates with an externally threaded item such as a solid axle. A "nut" has the wrench flats on the outside. An "allen" fastener is externally threaded with internal wrench flats and is technically a "bolt". You cannot connect two externally threaded fasteners (bolts).
1) No such thing as an allen nut. A "nut" is an internally threaded fastener that mates with an externally threaded item such as a solid axle. A "nut" has the wrench flats on the outside. An "allen" fastener is externally threaded with internal wrench flats and is technically a "bolt". You cannot connect two externally threaded fasteners (bolts).
#23
What's wrong with carrying a small 15mm wrench? Those things are small and only weigh a couple of ounces.
#24
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,866
Likes: 923
From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 82 wheels
#25
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,681
Likes: 3
From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!








