Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Wheelie impossible on 55-17?

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Wheelie impossible on 55-17?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-08-10, 01:04 AM
  #1  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wheelie impossible on 55-17?

Hey I'm trying to learn to wheelie but its really difficult even though im following all the advice ive heard on how to do them. I can pop the front up about a foot for maybe a second and a half (for about as long as 1/2 pedal revolution), but I cant lift further or keep it up longer no matter how hard i torque or lean back.

I tried doing it on my friends bike, who runs a smaller ratio, and I can at least get the front up to the balance point there. He tried it on my bike and said mine is geared to high and its impossible.

Is it really impossible with a 55t chainring and 17t cog? Should I gear it down, or should I just try harder?
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 01:13 AM
  #2  
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 32

Bikes: 1/8 Inch Scrambler, Haro Forum ProLite

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
check out https://www.tricktrack.org/forum/
those guys will be way more into helping you with this, also there is a couple threads already dedicated to wheelies that helped me out a ton.

My best advice:
1. use your arms as little as possible to pop up. Use leg power.
2. sit on the very back of your saddle.
3. LEAN THE **** BACK
4. Practice just popping up and falling back off the bike and landing on your feet a bunch of times and that will help you figure out the sweet spot where you can balance the wheelie

hope this helps
ridefixedlld is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 04:02 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
ncohen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: san juan capistrano
Posts: 57

Bikes: 1980s OLMO https://i48.tinypic.com/24e75mt.jpg

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RoadJerk
but I cant keep it up
i have this problem a lot in bed
ncohen is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 04:33 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Davis/Lafayette, CA
Posts: 2,014

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brakeless 55-17 on the street, i laugh at your jackassery.

why are you running such a ******** gear ratio? don't say speed, you have a riser stem, flat bars, and a steel 27" wheel.

for a 17t cog, 46-50 chainring is plenty fine. for 55t chainrings i'd say at least a 19t cog.
LupinIII is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 04:47 AM
  #5  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ridefixedlld
check out https://www.tricktrack.org/forum/
those guys will be way more into helping you with this, also there is a couple threads already dedicated to wheelies that helped me out a ton.

My best advice:
1. use your arms as little as possible to pop up. Use leg power.
2. sit on the very back of your saddle.
3. LEAN THE **** BACK
4. Practice just popping up and falling back off the bike and landing on your feet a bunch of times and that will help you figure out the sweet spot where you can balance the wheelie

hope this helps
thanks~!
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 04:54 AM
  #6  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by LupinIII
brakeless 55-17 on the street, i laugh at your jackassery.

why are you running such a ******** gear ratio? don't say speed, you have a riser stem, flat bars, and a steel 27" wheel.

for a 17t cog, 46-50 chainring is plenty fine. for 55t chainrings i'd say at least a 19t cog.
Well call me a jackass but I prefer high gears for - speed lol. I feel more comfortable riding fast at lower cadences. And who said this is my "street ride"? Right now its pretty much a campus bike. I can stop plenty fine with toe cages, or foot braking if I really have to bring it to a halt. I might get tired of that and get a front brake, but for now let me have my fun and feel cooler than people with brakes. I'm still popping my fixie cherry.
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 05:04 AM
  #7  
bree bree bree
 
NoCash27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 191
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
you really feel cool for not having brakes?
NoCash27 is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 05:29 AM
  #8  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
You are gonna break my new bs meter...

Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 05:30 AM
  #9  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
See... now I need a new one.
Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 05:32 AM
  #10  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
This appears to be more solidly made...

Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 05:33 AM
  #11  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
Try swapping that 55 to a 48 and get back to us.
Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:02 AM
  #12  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
Try swapping that 55 to a 48 and get back to us.
Ok, I'll try that. But what are you calling BS on? I don't get it...
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:05 AM
  #13  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NoCash27
you really feel cool for not having brakes?
Not really, but when people see that I don't have any they say "Waow, that guy's badass!" and that makes me feel cool
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:15 AM
  #14  
Bicycle Repair Man !!!
 
Sixty Fiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YEG
Posts: 27,267

Bikes: See my sig...

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Liked 129 Times in 96 Posts
Originally Posted by RoadJerk
Ok, I'll try that. But what are you calling BS on? I don't get it...
The going fast and being able to stop... both are relative and bet you can go fast on flat ground when there is no hint of a breeze and that you can stop... poorly.
Sixty Fiver is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:49 AM
  #15  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
The going fast and being able to stop... both are relative and bet you can go fast on flat ground when there is no hint of a breeze and that you can stop... poorly.
Well I guess everything is relative. I admit, going down a steep hill feels awkward. But I can go just about as fast as I can on my road bike in 2nd to last gear on the flats, and accelerate much quicker. Over hills I can stand and mash up them without losing too much speed. Of course I can't maintain that pace over a long period, and a road bike would eventually overtake me in a lower gear, and I cant slow down as quick as a bike with brakes, but no fixed gear can do either of those things no matter what gearing. (Of course, one can always plant a foot on the rear tire and stop as fast as a bike with a rear brake). I dont know what the standard is for "stopping poorly" or "stopping decently" but I sure as hell am able to stop faster now than I ever have on a fix, cause I finally have one that I can practice on.

I used to ride an old, heavy, steel road bike in top gear all the time, cause the derailleur didn't work, and I got used to low cadence, high resistance pedaling. Now on a lighter bike, with toeclips, I can put out enough resistance to (almost) do a seated skid running 55-17. To stop I usually do a series of small hop-skids. I don't have a speedometer or a G-meter on my bike, so I cant prove anything, but if you don't believe me I will make a video, just for you (just gimme a week or so )

Last edited by RoadJerk; 02-08-10 at 07:07 AM.
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 07:45 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
TheBikeRollsOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 1,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why would you need a gear as tall as that on campus? I don't know about your campus but mine doesn't have many stretches where you would ever be able to get up to the proper cadence for that gear. And foot braking your rear wheel is not going to stop you faster than anyone with a front brake set up properly. Why does this seem to come up so often?
TheBikeRollsOn is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 10:41 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Davis/Lafayette, CA
Posts: 2,014

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
see ya knees, it was nice knowing you
LupinIII is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 12:05 PM
  #18  
:)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Posts: 3,391

Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Can't stop, can't accelerate, can't climb, can't wheelie, sounds like a winning combo.
ianjk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 02:20 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 120
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I love threads like this.
Makes me happy.
I'm rocking 35-22.
Give that a try if you really want to wheelie.
Ho ho ho.
Rob Glatfelter is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 03:03 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Davis/Lafayette, CA
Posts: 2,014

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ianjk
Can't stop, can't accelerate, can't climb, can't wheelie, sounds like a winning combo.
nah man, it's about the speed man. forget my steel 27", flat bars, riser stem.

seriously guy, you want a gear ratio that you can hold cadence at like 60-90 rpm.

seeing someone use a 55t maxy for speed is like someone putting kenda slicks on a roadmaster for hella speed.
LupinIII is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 03:13 PM
  #21  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
to each his own, i suppose.

my question was answered long ago. thanks for the tips guys.
RoadJerk is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:00 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montreal Quebec, Plateau
Posts: 360

Bikes: 91 bridgestone rb-2, Univega viva sport, 04 masi Nouva Strada,Dave Scott Ironman, Changes like every month

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
he probably doesn't even have a 55, you pretty much need to order them, find an old tri bike, or luck out in a parts bin
TL179 is offline  
Old 02-08-10, 06:33 PM
  #23  
cherry vanilla rampage
Thread Starter
 
RoadJerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 119

Bikes: Crosslake Aluminum Track

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by TL179
he probably doesn't even have a 55, you pretty much need to order them, find an old tri bike, or luck out in a parts bin
https://www.flickr.com/photos/47282058@N03/4335890441/

parts bin, biatch. why would I lie?
RoadJerk is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
unknownn
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
19
06-07-13 08:22 AM
solecal123
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
31
04-17-13 02:17 PM
pandita
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
25
01-02-11 03:21 PM
shortshorts
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
13
03-09-10 07:43 AM
ph4nt0mf1ng3rs
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
10
12-27-09 11:52 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.