Gear Ratio
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Gear Ratio
Hey I'm fairly new to all this stuff and just pretty much want to know what's going to be easier to ride with..
I'm currently riding a 48x16 fixed and struggle to climb big hills and it's a little tough to gain some speed quick off the traffic lights and I can only skid using the balls to headtube technique, I want to be able to spin more so I can climb more hills and skid easier/quicker etc etc..
I've been reading Sheldon Brown stuff but can't get my head around stuff without asking questions.
I love the speed I gain while using 48x16 and I don't want to lose a whole lot of speed but just so it's easier for what I've said just above ^ - What would I be better off changing, the chainring or the cog or doesn't it matter at all?
Even if somebody could PM me and is willing to help me out it's much appreciated! Cheers.
I'm currently riding a 48x16 fixed and struggle to climb big hills and it's a little tough to gain some speed quick off the traffic lights and I can only skid using the balls to headtube technique, I want to be able to spin more so I can climb more hills and skid easier/quicker etc etc..
I've been reading Sheldon Brown stuff but can't get my head around stuff without asking questions.
I love the speed I gain while using 48x16 and I don't want to lose a whole lot of speed but just so it's easier for what I've said just above ^ - What would I be better off changing, the chainring or the cog or doesn't it matter at all?
Even if somebody could PM me and is willing to help me out it's much appreciated! Cheers.
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Changing the cog will cost a lot less than the chainring and will give you a much bigger change in gearing. I ride a 47 x 17, which is only slightly lower gearing than 48 x 17, so I'd suggest trying a 17T rear cog first and see how it feels. I can still average 20 mph on the flats with this gearing and crank it up to 35 mph on downhills, but still get up hills easily. I don't skid, just backpedal to stop and have a front brake for fast and emergency stops.
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Changing the cog will cost a lot less than the chainring and will give you a much bigger change in gearing. I ride a 47 x 17, which is only slightly lower gearing than 48 x 17, so I'd suggest trying a 17T rear cog first and see how it feels. I can still average 20 mph on the flats with this gearing and crank it up to 35 mph on downhills, but still get up hills easily. I don't skid, just backpedal to stop and have a front brake for fast and emergency stops.
Would it make sense to just go one up though and get the 17t cog? Would that even be noticeable from 48x16 to 48x17? Am I better off getting 18t?
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Yeah that's what I was thinking. So the more teeth on the cog will allow me to spin more? I hardly ever skid either I usually just backpedal quite alot but wouldn't mind being able to skid easier. On the set up I'm currently running I can max out to like 35mph on flat, I haven't actually checked for downhill..
Would it make sense to just go one up though and get the 17t cog? Would that even be noticeable from 48x16 to 48x17? Am I better off getting 18t?
Would it make sense to just go one up though and get the 17t cog? Would that even be noticeable from 48x16 to 48x17? Am I better off getting 18t?
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One tooth difference in a rear cog is about the same as 3 teeth change in the front chainring. It's definitely noticeable. Basically it represents about a 6% reduction in the gearing. Going from a 16T to an 18T represents a really big change that would probably be too much.
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Sounds like a good plan.
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On second thought though, my chainring could even well be 46t so what would I be better of getting if so? a 15t cog?
I'll be able to find out tomorrow for sure before I order the parts but if it turns out to be a 46 chainring what size cog would I be better off getting for the same as 48x17?
I'll be able to find out tomorrow for sure before I order the parts but if it turns out to be a 46 chainring what size cog would I be better off getting for the same as 48x17?
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On second thought though, my chainring could even well be 46t so what would I be better of getting if so? a 15t cog?
I'll be able to find out tomorrow for sure before I order the parts but if it turns out to be a 46 chainring what size cog would I be better off getting for the same as 48x17?
I'll be able to find out tomorrow for sure before I order the parts but if it turns out to be a 46 chainring what size cog would I be better off getting for the same as 48x17?
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Cheers for the help dude you've answered all my questions! I might PM you later though if I'm having more trouble.
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The joint where I bought my bike from doesn't even know it's own parts...
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The simplest approach is to buy a 3/32" thick cog, and it will work with either a 3/32" or 1/8" wide chain. You can run a 3/32" cog with a 1/8" chain, but you can't run a 1/8" cog with a 3/32" chain.
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I also wanna get this headset - https://www.wiggle.com.au/ritchey-logic-v2-headset/ - Should that fit my bike if my stem has a fork clamp diameter of 1" 1/8?
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True true, well I just spoke to the mechanic where I got the bike from and he said it's a 1/8 chain but they are unreliable as **** but I think I'll just get a 1/8 cog anyway, eh.
I also wanna get this headset - https://www.wiggle.com.au/ritchey-logic-v2-headset/ - Should that fit my bike if my stem has a fork clamp diameter of 1" 1/8?
I also wanna get this headset - https://www.wiggle.com.au/ritchey-logic-v2-headset/ - Should that fit my bike if my stem has a fork clamp diameter of 1" 1/8?
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btw when you start playing with gearing you'll probably need to add or subtract chain links sooner or later... for that you'll need a chain tool and a 3/32 tool will def not work on 1/8 chain.
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Your cog is slipping.



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OP.....
Use this:
https://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html
Put in your chainring and cog teeth counts and you can see the difference in a visual display....makes it easy for me.
If you are going to skid an odd tooth count on your cog will give you another spot to wear out your rear tire.
Use this:
https://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html
Put in your chainring and cog teeth counts and you can see the difference in a visual display....makes it easy for me.
If you are going to skid an odd tooth count on your cog will give you another spot to wear out your rear tire.
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OP.....
Use this:
https://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html
Put in your chainring and cog teeth counts and you can see the difference in a visual display....makes it easy for me.
If you are going to skid an odd tooth count on your cog will give you another spot to wear out your rear tire.
Use this:
https://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html
Put in your chainring and cog teeth counts and you can see the difference in a visual display....makes it easy for me.
If you are going to skid an odd tooth count on your cog will give you another spot to wear out your rear tire.
https://software.bareknucklebrigade.c...it.applet.html
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