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Road oriented fixed gear frames?

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Old 02-27-10 | 01:11 PM
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Road oriented fixed gear frames?

I'm gathering some very nice parts to do a build in a couple months and I just wanted to know if anybody knew of any other specifically road oriented frames with track drops other than the Wabi. I'm leaning toward getting the Wabi Special frameset right now because the design philosophy is right on with what I want but I'm interested to know if there are any other companies doing traditional steel road racer geometries with track dropouts. I definitely don't want or need track geo since I'm going to be doing longer road rides on it. Is there anything competitive with the Wabi? I'm not asking about tarck frames which can't decide whether they're track or street geo and end up being neither.
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Old 02-27-10 | 01:52 PM
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how about the fuji track or windsor hour?
i have a fuji track, love it.

i see you're in chicago, you should join the chifg forum.
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Old 02-27-10 | 02:02 PM
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Just buy a nice vintage lugged road frame. You will end up with more frame for the money.
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Old 02-27-10 | 02:15 PM
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Just buy a nice vintage lugged road frame. You will end up with more frame for the money.
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Conversions can be excellent, I ride a 1970 gitane tour de france fixed during the summer and I love it.
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Old 02-27-10 | 03:10 PM
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Jamis Sputnik fits the bill perfectly for what you're talking about. Road geo, CF fork, reynolds 631 steel, water bottle bosses, brake mounts, etc.
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Old 02-28-10 | 07:01 PM
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Jamis Sputnik fits the bill perfectly for what you're talking about. Road geo, CF fork, reynolds 631 steel, water bottle bosses, brake mounts, etc.
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You could also try an old Lemond Fillmore (check either craigslist or eBay as they're no longer made).
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Old 02-28-10 | 09:11 PM
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Ends. Not dropouts.
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Old 02-28-10 | 11:47 PM
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^ I always find this funny. On BMX bikes, these are referred to as dropouts:



but on track bikes, the same design must be called track ends or the wolves come out.
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Old 03-01-10 | 12:24 AM
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If you want a road oriented fixed gear, get a nice road bike and convert it just as people have been doing for decades... you will get a great frame with a nice ride and it won't break the bank.

As always, should you come across a truly desireable road frame, please do not hack off all the braze on fittings and spray bomb it black and ride it as it is, you will have a more unique looking bike and the original finishes are better than anything you can do in your back yard.

A few kids have looked at my 1940 CCM and thought it was a track bike with a coaster hub when in reality, it was a coaster bike that was fitted with rear facing ends.



Many fixed gear bikes were built with regular dropouts as it was common to offer a base frame with several different drive options, at one time you could have bought a Raleigh road frame with a fixed, internally geared, or deraileur gear system.

Many racers of old would convert their geared road bikes to fixed use for winter training.
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Old 03-01-10 | 12:34 PM
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Just buy a nice vintage lugged road frame. You will end up with more frame for the money.
This. I converted an '89 Trek 660. Bought the frame off eBay just before the price of steel Treks got hyperinflated. Great bike.
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Old 03-01-10 | 02:02 PM
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IRO angus or Mark V. Reynolds 631, and toe clearance. Great bikes.
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Old 03-02-10 | 07:57 AM
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If you're looking at the Special, then most of the suggestions made don't apply to you. I've got the Classic, which has the same geometry, but without the brazing/lugs. You can see from this page that they all have the same geometry, but differ in materials and construction.
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Old 06-02-11 | 07:55 AM
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doomridesout - I know this is over a year old, but I was wondering if you ever purchased the Wabi? If you did, does the geometry of the bike feel like a road bike? I am thinking about purchasing a single speed I can use for road rides.

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Old 06-02-11 | 11:39 AM
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