Best Chain?
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Best Chain?
Let the can of worms begin heh! So I did some searching here but didnt see any threads on the matter... I just wanted to get some opinions on the best SS/track chains... Thanks.
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You can get the K710 from just about any shop that carries BMX parts. It's designed to be a BMX street riding chain.
The K710 is 1/8"
The K810 is 3/32"
The K910 is 3/16" (I think this is an oversized BMX thing)
"SL" means that it's up to 20% lighter. They have slot holes in the plates.
$17 at https://www.danscomp.com/464012.php?cat=PARTS
Last edited by carleton; 04-24-10 at 04:16 AM.
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That's a great chain. It's on my short list of favorites, too. Along with the Izumi Eco and Izumi Model V.
You can get the K710 from just about any shop that carries BMX parts. It's designed to be a BMX street riding chain.
The K710 is 1/8"
The K810 is 3/32"
The K910 is 3/16" (I think this is an oversized BMX thing)
"SL" means that it's up to 20% lighter. They have slot holes in the plates.
$17 at https://www.danscomp.com/464012.php?cat=PARTS
You can get the K710 from just about any shop that carries BMX parts. It's designed to be a BMX street riding chain.
The K710 is 1/8"
The K810 is 3/32"
The K910 is 3/16" (I think this is an oversized BMX thing)
"SL" means that it's up to 20% lighter. They have slot holes in the plates.
$17 at https://www.danscomp.com/464012.php?cat=PARTS
For multi geared drives I prefer SRAM as it is a little smoother and quieter in this application.
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BikeSomeWhere has k710 and k810 for $11.39
https://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesom...520/4983/30862
Can anyone tell me if these chains are very quiet?
https://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesom...520/4983/30862
Can anyone tell me if these chains are very quiet?
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BikeSomeWhere has k710 and k810 for $11.39
https://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesom...520/4983/30862
Can anyone tell me if these chains are very quiet?
https://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesom...520/4983/30862
Can anyone tell me if these chains are very quiet?
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I'd like to try a super toughness.
I've always been a KMC K710SL fan, but I got a D101 and it's super solid. The Kool chains are generally pretty consistent. I like those as a go to 1/8".
I've always been a KMC K710SL fan, but I got a D101 and it's super solid. The Kool chains are generally pretty consistent. I like those as a go to 1/8".
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This is just as good for $24 less >>> https://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/ite...819/index.html
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This is just as good for $24 less >>> https://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/ite...819/index.html
But the model "V" is compared to the Eco as
The durability [of the V] is more than 3 times as much as that of the standard type [the Eco]. This is the finest grade track racer chain, and keeps running stably over a long period.
Unless you are a really big guy turning lots of torque, the Eco is fine.
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For all intents and purposes, maybe.
But the model "V" is compared to the Eco as
https://www.izumichain.co.jp/en/product.html
Unless you are a really big guy turning lots of torque, the Eco is fine.
But the model "V" is compared to the Eco as
https://www.izumichain.co.jp/en/product.html
Unless you are a really big guy turning lots of torque, the Eco is fine.
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I got more chain noise with the ESH vs. the V. IMO the V is the best chain currently available. Whether it's worth the money to a given individual is another question. I'm still debating it with myself.
Despite being a chain snob, I have actually had very good results with whatever 1/8" chain Giant is currently putting its name on. $10, and I even used the master link.
On a more general note, I think discussion about strength is foolish. Any modern chain is more than adequately strong for even the strongest rider. Wear may be a worthwhile question, but I have never seen any valid wear comparisons. Just anecdotes of various credibility.
Despite being a chain snob, I have actually had very good results with whatever 1/8" chain Giant is currently putting its name on. $10, and I even used the master link.
On a more general note, I think discussion about strength is foolish. Any modern chain is more than adequately strong for even the strongest rider. Wear may be a worthwhile question, but I have never seen any valid wear comparisons. Just anecdotes of various credibility.
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I put the ESH chain on my track bike this winter, after using the original KMC K-5A chain for 4 years. Although the KMC never stretched very much, it was always extremely noisy and seemed to create excessive drag, especially on a 13T cog. The ESH is much quieter and smoother. One thing I noticed when I removed the KMC chain was that the inner links lacked a connecting bushing, but instead the link plates were pressed inward at the pin holes to form a bushing around the pin. This seems like a very crude and cheap way to form the links and may account for the rough operation. I also like the fact that the ESH chain uses a bolted connection instead of a masterlink. My old school steel track bike (Paramount P14) has a Reynold chain than has lasted for eons and is very quiet.
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I put the ESH chain on my track bike this winter, after using the original KMC K-5A chain for 4 years. Although the KMC never stretched very much, it was always extremely noisy and seemed to create excessive drag, especially on a 13T cog. The ESH is much quieter and smoother. One thing I noticed when I removed the KMC chain was that the inner links lacked a connecting bushing, but instead the link plates were pressed inward at the pin holes to form a bushing around the pin. This seems like a very crude and cheap way to form the links and may account for the rough operation. I also like the fact that the ESH chain uses a bolted connection instead of a masterlink. My old school steel track bike (Paramount P14) has a Reynold chain than has lasted for eons and is very quiet.
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I mostly use KMC Z510HX (1/8") and Z610HX (3'32") chains. Both of these chains can be found for $10-12. These are more durable than the low-end Z410 chain, which is more widely available and made of lesser materials. I've tried lots of more expensive chains, up to and including the most expensive NJS chains, and found none of them to really be an improvement over the Z510HX or Z610HX chains. If longevity and strength are your main concerns, there really is no point in forking out more than $20 for a SS/FG chain.






