Best Chain?
#52
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I wish I new the model but I use the Izumi 1/8 chain that uses the little bolt and nut thing as a master link. Looks a little hokie at first but works like a dream. I carry a dollar store flat head screwdriver in my saddle bag. I get a flat I stop, pull out the driver, drop the chain, fix the flat, line the wheel back up, tighten it down (I use a chaintug so it all lines up the same), screw the chain back on. It's all very mechanical and minimal time spent dealing with the dirty chain. Love it. Plus, getting the length right couldn't be easier - just punch out the right amount of links and the bolt goes in the hole. Putting in a link pin isn't exactly brain surgery but it's nice to not have to deal with that step at all.
#53
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
I wish I new the model but I use the Izumi 1/8 chain that uses the little bolt and nut thing as a master link. Looks a little hokie at first but works like a dream. I carry a dollar store flat head screwdriver in my saddle bag. I get a flat I stop, pull out the driver, drop the chain, fix the flat, line the wheel back up, tighten it down (I use a chaintug so it all lines up the same), screw the chain back on. It's all very mechanical and minimal time spent dealing with the dirty chain. Love it. Plus, getting the length right couldn't be easier - just punch out the right amount of links and the bolt goes in the hole. Putting in a link pin isn't exactly brain surgery but it's nice to not have to deal with that step at all.
#54
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Did yours include a square nut? Mine did, but it was not attached to the link and I lost it. I put the screw in without the nut, and it remained tight through several track sessions. Later on I discovered the nut on the floor, and installed it for good measure. I also installed an Izumi bolted half link to get the correct chain length.
For my money, dirt is what kills chains. On the track, my chains always lasted forever, but on the road I find that regular cleaning makes a big difference. I like the nut/bolt arrangement because it allows me to remove the chain every few weeks (I hate driving pins in and out that often) and run it through the ultrasonic cleaner. I have found this increases chain life by a factor of four, at minimum.
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#55
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For my money, dirt is what kills chains. On the track, my chains always lasted forever, but on the road I find that regular cleaning makes a big difference. I like the nut/bolt arrangement because it allows me to remove the chain every few weeks (I hate driving pins in and out that often) and run it through the ultrasonic cleaner. I have found this increases chain life by a factor of four, at minimum.
#56
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From: Dallas, TX
Bikes: Panasonic NJS Keirin x2, Level Professional, Bianchi CUSS, GT Pulse
I wish I new the model but I use the Izumi 1/8 chain that uses the little bolt and nut thing as a master link. Looks a little hokie at first but works like a dream. I carry a dollar store flat head screwdriver in my saddle bag. I get a flat I stop, pull out the driver, drop the chain, fix the flat, line the wheel back up, tighten it down (I use a chaintug so it all lines up the same), screw the chain back on. It's all very mechanical and minimal time spent dealing with the dirty chain. Love it. Plus, getting the length right couldn't be easier - just punch out the right amount of links and the bolt goes in the hole. Putting in a link pin isn't exactly brain surgery but it's nice to not have to deal with that step at all.
I usually have KMC chains, so I use a tiny screwdriver to pop the pin and remove the chain. Keeping the wheel slammed shortens my wheelbase slightly and also really helps to prevent rear wheel theft. Most thieves probably won't post up to fiddle around with a master link to steal your stuff.
#57
Dude, I recommended Wippermann 108 because it's real solid. It is, but it is also real loud. I just now swapped mine with Miche Primo Track Chain (looks like a chrome plated K410 but supposedly for track use) and realized. This ain't anywhere close to the best, but Jeez. 108 sounds like thunder storm compared to this. I know keirin racers sound like thunder storm too. So I never even thought better about it.
How's HKK running for you, Don?
How's HKK running for you, Don?
#58
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I am curious how you get the nut tight with just a screwdriver. Since the link plate on the back side is also threaded, I've found that you must first install and tighten the screw (bolt), and then screw on the nut and tighten it with a small crescent wrench or pliers while holding the chain. Actually, I don't think the square nut is really needed, as there seems to be sufficient number of threads in the link plate to prevent it from stripping out when tightened.
Yes, as a few others noted I just start the bolt then hold the nut against the back and use the driver to screw it all together. I haven't had to do it much. I did it 2 or 3 times the first few weeks it was on just to be sure I had the rhythm down and have thankfully only had one puncture on the road that I dropped the chain. It's a good way of doing things. I don't own one but I've had folks who have chains with a push link say they can be torture to get to work if the chain is dirty and gummed up. Of course, depending on setup, dropping the chain might not be required at all. I'm just a creature of habit. Do it the same way every time.
#59
Sorry I'm a bit off topic, but I just checked my 6 week old chain and it says 75% wear! I know that wear tools aren't terribly accurate but still. I commute about 22km (14 miles) a day. I only have one steep hill. It has rained a few times and I think I only cleaned it once so some of this is on me, but shouldn't it be a bit better than that? Should I change it or just keep riding and assume the measurement is off?
The tension is pretty good I think. Or was it because it is a SRAM PC-1? The bike was purchased used but the chainring and freewheel don't look too worn.
The tension is pretty good I think. Or was it because it is a SRAM PC-1? The bike was purchased used but the chainring and freewheel don't look too worn.
#60
How are you measuring your chain wear?
Instead of using a chain wear tool, try the Sheldon Brown method, and just measure a 12" length of chain. Then use his guide for what to do (nothing, just replace the chain, or replace the chain and cog/chainring), and you should be all good.
Instead of using a chain wear tool, try the Sheldon Brown method, and just measure a 12" length of chain. Then use his guide for what to do (nothing, just replace the chain, or replace the chain and cog/chainring), and you should be all good.
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