How to make a suicide hub safe?
#101
Your cog is slipping.



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So many words, so much stupid.
#104
This thread had its climax when the OP installed the track cog on his hub with loctite and added a BB lockring.
What followed after that... shouldn't have existed.
What followed after that... shouldn't have existed.
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fixed cog on freewheel improperly named as suicide hub, that is the only problem here.
its been pointed out its doable and doable safely. shutup and move on.
seriously weve had a few knowledgable people point out that its double plus sheldon brown. so shutup
its been pointed out its doable and doable safely. shutup and move on.
seriously weve had a few knowledgable people point out that its double plus sheldon brown. so shutup
#106
This thread sucks its a bunch of ****ing idiots who can't spell or use punctuational and it's ****ty and useless and everyone who posts to say as much are the only ones who really know what's going on and should be listened to
So there.
So there.
#107
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Joejewler - it looks like you did this the best way possible but for those that might not know -- aluminum really doesnt like 500 degree f temperatures. It loses its heat treat and turns into weak soft butter. Dont throw an aluminum hub into the oven at 500 f!!!
Ok ill take off my engineering hat now and return to eating popcorn and watching threads about poop eh
Ok ill take off my engineering hat now and return to eating popcorn and watching threads about poop eh
By directing the flame into the cog toward the center of the hub (air space), i'm thinking the hub threads were nearer 400 degrees,....still not prefered,.. but this was on an old schwinn hub with mavic rim with not a great deal of value anyway. That's why i decided to NOT ty this on my dura ace HF-7261 hub!
With the newly applied red permatex and full curing (in another 6 hrs),.....the thread's temper hardness have less impact than if they were holding on a regular freewheel 'sans" locking compound. I'll run the wheel see what happens!
In any case,.....i think it's worthwhile to find out. I do wish i hadn't worried about including a lockring with the initial setup,......as i would have gotten the chainline perfect and had no need to remove the cog.
Practically speaking though,.......cogs wear out so EVENTUALLY you'll be faced with having to remove one. I hope my method of removal help others to do it with the least impact on spokes and hub.
Last edited by joejeweler; 08-23-12 at 11:24 AM.
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Even funnier is your use of the word "punctuational",....which is the wrong tense.
".......****ing idiots who can't spell or use proper punctuation...." would make more sense.
So according to your definition,......who's the ****ing idiot?

BTW,....your whole diatribe is a run on sentence with NO punctuation used!
Let me help you.......
This is how you, (commenting on english grammar), should have written your thoughts.
"This thread sucks! Its a bunch of ****ing idiots who can't spell or use proper punctuation, and it's ****ty and useless. Everyone who posts to say as much are the only ones who really know what's going on, and should be listened to.
So there."
Last edited by joejeweler; 08-23-12 at 11:52 AM.
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#115
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-... .. - . / -- . That's Morse Code for.......
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Amazes me how some here want to chime in with absolutely nothing positive to add to the discussion.
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..........i'm 1956 vintage, and care less now about dated styling than i did when it wasn't dated!
Last edited by joejeweler; 08-23-12 at 05:07 PM.
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#117
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#118
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Amazes me how some here want to chime in with absolutely nothing positive to add to the discussion.
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Amazes me how some here want to chime in with absolutely nothing positive to add to the discussion.
You must be a youngster,...............................
..........i'm 1956 vintage, and care less now about dated styling than i did when it wasn't dated!
You're older than my dad. I was born in 1980.
#119
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#120
Fwiw, I am amused that my joke post about grammar and punctuation was critiqued by a guy who completely misused the ellipsis and comma in his critique. Especially since my post, if anything, was made in defense of him. That's the interwebs for you.
Psychic powers not required. Subtlety detector? Yes... Required.
Furthermore, I do not think lax means what you think it means. I think the word you want is lacking. As for your styling, it may not have always been dated, but it's always been wrong.
Psychic powers not required. Subtlety detector? Yes... Required.
Furthermore, I do not think lax means what you think it means. I think the word you want is lacking. As for your styling, it may not have always been dated, but it's always been wrong.
#121
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Lax?
#123
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bat56, youre a dingle.
#124
Your cog is slipping.



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He may be a dingle but he's cooler than Spoonrobot.
Can we be done with this thread now?
Can we be done with this thread now?
#125
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i think bat56 and spoonrobot are brothers.



