so i was looking at a PAKE frame and fork and everyone on here said they were basicly ****,so now im looking at the scrambler v2 shipper for $150 which is cheaper than the PAKE i was gonna get by about 40 bucks and apparently better? im curious if any of you have it,how is the weight? do they run big or small? i ride a 52cm but all they have is 51cm and im 5'7 so would that fit me alright? Im "upgrading" from a BD dawes SST.... any info would be appreciated,thanks...

Switching from an SST to a Scrambler is hardly an upgrade. I don't know who you've been talking to but Pake frame are pretty damn good for what they cost. The Scrambler is an OK frame but I'd rather ride a Pake any day.

Pake any day rhymes.

But yea, Pake's are nice, I'd love to have one for a new project.

My friend just built a Pake for his wife. Looks good to me. Tubing, welds etc. He paid for it what some unrealistic types charge for shipping a frame. Score.

My younger brother had a Pake frame and I had a scrambler frame and I felt my scrambler was a little bit better, albeit he doesnt really take care of his ****.