Value of a cannondale track?
11-03-10 | 01:00 PM
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OMG more guys here have this frame then I expected... 
Great idea; I should be able to do this in a week thanks to thanksgiving. Hopefully his in a giving mood. 
The conversation starts with, "What amount are you comfortable selling it to me for?"
If the answer is more than you can afford, then you say, "Well, I can't really afford to spend that much. How about $_____?"
That's pretty much all you have to do. Basically your post is about something between you and your friend. If that friend is comfortable making you happy for $50, then so be it. If you are happy paying $500 to help out your friend, then so be it. When you look at it like that it doesn't matter what we think.
So, invite your friend to coffee and have a chat about it. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.
If the answer is more than you can afford, then you say, "Well, I can't really afford to spend that much. How about $_____?"
That's pretty much all you have to do. Basically your post is about something between you and your friend. If that friend is comfortable making you happy for $50, then so be it. If you are happy paying $500 to help out your friend, then so be it. When you look at it like that it doesn't matter what we think.
So, invite your friend to coffee and have a chat about it. You will probably be pleasantly surprised.
11-03-10 | 07:48 PM
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No. That's not normal. That's actually stupidly expensive.
It's a nice bike, but not THAT nice. H*ll, you can get a standard sized (S/M/L/XL) Tiemeyer for $1,335 and pick the color you want. $1585 for CUSTOM geometry. That includes a $600 MSRP Edge fork and a $100 King headset. Anybody paying over $1,000 for a used 20 year old frame and fork is nuts.
It's a nice bike, but not THAT nice. H*ll, you can get a standard sized (S/M/L/XL) Tiemeyer for $1,335 and pick the color you want. $1585 for CUSTOM geometry. That includes a $600 MSRP Edge fork and a $100 King headset. Anybody paying over $1,000 for a used 20 year old frame and fork is nuts.
"They are paying for the name and the "status"."
And that too.
11-04-10 | 03:17 AM
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What JDM said, they are worth what the market will bear, and oh how it beareth.
Just because they might not be worth it to X-poster means essentially nothing because knukkas on Ebay pay through the nose.
Also, u mention that this is a friend, and I understand that you really want the frame, but if he is in really bad shape financially a true friend might recommend that he put it on Ebay as we all know that will fetch the highest price. However, I'm sure you can work out an agreeable sum, I personally wouldn't have a problem paying close to a grand for what u described.
Just because they might not be worth it to X-poster means essentially nothing because knukkas on Ebay pay through the nose.
Also, u mention that this is a friend, and I understand that you really want the frame, but if he is in really bad shape financially a true friend might recommend that he put it on Ebay as we all know that will fetch the highest price. However, I'm sure you can work out an agreeable sum, I personally wouldn't have a problem paying close to a grand for what u described.
11-04-10 | 03:29 AM
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On that note, he wants the possibility of buying it back sometime in the future. His the 1st owner and whatnot....
11-04-10 | 03:42 AM
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i cringe to think of the number of cannondale tracks that were fgfs'd door'd and otherwise destroyed to death in the last three years... methinks it could very well account for a 350 price increase.
knockback some beers plus deal to buyback at full return rate to me would be total greenlight on heftily discounted friend rate.
i mean... as long as it isn't damaged in the meantime and he can kick you back the 500 or so you'd pay him for it, you're doing him a solid by holding his bike for him... plus you get to ride a sweet bike in the meantime. win/win. and if not, he gets money and the peace of mind that his beloved possession is giving someone close to him joy. win/happy.
just don't offer him sixty bucks and a handjob for it. be reasonable.
also, regretting not checking this thread earlier for hilarious cheezburgrs.
knockback some beers plus deal to buyback at full return rate to me would be total greenlight on heftily discounted friend rate.
i mean... as long as it isn't damaged in the meantime and he can kick you back the 500 or so you'd pay him for it, you're doing him a solid by holding his bike for him... plus you get to ride a sweet bike in the meantime. win/win. and if not, he gets money and the peace of mind that his beloved possession is giving someone close to him joy. win/happy.
just don't offer him sixty bucks and a handjob for it. be reasonable.
also, regretting not checking this thread earlier for hilarious cheezburgrs.
11-04-10 | 05:47 AM
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11-04-10 | 10:27 AM
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11-04-10 | 12:12 PM
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11-05-10 | 05:47 PM
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1k for a frameset? wtf.
I'd say ~$700 for craigslist pricing, $500 for high bro price.
I'd consider it for ~450 if it was in that much sexier green, but as said it is 20 year old aluminum and in the end it's not particularly special.
1k for a frameset? wtf.
I'd say ~$700 for craigslist pricing, $500 for high bro price.
I'd consider it for ~450 if it was in that much sexier green, but as said it is 20 year old aluminum and in the end it's not particularly special.
11-05-10 | 10:54 PM
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Some recent 90's C-dale track frame sales on ebay:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I like my C-dale track frame so much I'm always on the lookout for a deal on another one (Send me a PM JDMFanatic if it turns out you don't like yours and want to make a profit off it). I got mine, which has definitely seen some street use, as a Buy It Now on ebay for $350 (I swooped down on that thing like lightning). Don't get one if toe overlap bothers you or you like a more upright riding position. I think an average price for that frame in the general bike market would be about $700 dollars and with those high end components your closing in on the $900-$1000 range. Sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear.
IMO, Cannondale's biggest marketing mistake right now is not reissuing these frames.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I like my C-dale track frame so much I'm always on the lookout for a deal on another one (Send me a PM JDMFanatic if it turns out you don't like yours and want to make a profit off it). I got mine, which has definitely seen some street use, as a Buy It Now on ebay for $350 (I swooped down on that thing like lightning). Don't get one if toe overlap bothers you or you like a more upright riding position. I think an average price for that frame in the general bike market would be about $700 dollars and with those high end components your closing in on the $900-$1000 range. Sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear.
IMO, Cannondale's biggest marketing mistake right now is not reissuing these frames.
11-05-10 | 10:57 PM
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OG cannondale tracks are sweet. Even if you paid 1k for the bike, you would not only get a sweet bike but also a very sought after vintage track bike. I couldn't afford 1k right now, but it will definately be a nice bike to ride.
11-06-10 | 01:19 PM
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Some recent 90's C-dale track frame sales on ebay:
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
11-06-10 | 02:50 PM
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11-06-10 | 05:02 PM
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by "tzusing"
Found it here: https://tarckbike.com/node/10513?page=45
https://www.lfgss.com/thread15446.html
h plus frame 2nd prototype. slight changes to come for prototype 3 as i have finally acquired the original c-dale frame.
Found it here: https://tarckbike.com/node/10513?page=45
https://www.lfgss.com/thread15446.html