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Old 11-07-10 | 09:09 AM
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Any suggestions for a clean no sticker solid track frame? Are there any builders out there you would recommend?
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Old 11-07-10 | 09:10 AM
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What is your price range?

Off the top of my head, the Eighth Inch Scrambler and the Leader 722TS are two lower priced options. I don't know if you're looking for something nicer, but the Leader is pretty nice.

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Old 11-07-10 | 09:54 AM
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kilo tt im pretty sure has a no decal version
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Old 11-07-10 | 09:59 AM
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I just dropped about 300.00 on one of these but, they start at around 249.00. I'm really impressed with the quality. I had been planning on getting a Felt.
https://www.missionbicycle.com/
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Old 11-07-10 | 10:20 AM
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Pake has their stickers over the clear coat, so they come off very easy.
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Old 11-07-10 | 05:48 PM
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Kayce...thanks for the input. I like the Pake. good call with the sticker removal. I didn't know they were over the clear coat.
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Old 11-07-10 | 06:03 PM
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all city has a small sticker under the clear coat
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Old 11-07-10 | 07:05 PM
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Kayce...thanks for the input. I like the Pake. good call with the sticker removal. I didn't know they were over the clear coat.

This is a Pake frame unbranded for $128 shipped.

https://www.crosslakesales.com/p-1325...omoly-new.aspx
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Old 11-07-10 | 09:06 PM
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what do you like in terms of feel/features from a frame?

how much do you have to spend?

are there any other aesthetic features you want from the frame?

there are lots of stickerless track frames, all the above are fine. plus kilo tt strippers on bikeisland, which i've loved since 2007. it all depends what you want out of it. if you want a bar bike a scrambler is a good option, if you want something cheap, it doesn't really matter and that mission valencia is probably great for you, or the pake. if you want something stiff you can probably do better with a kilo or spending a little more.

you say 'you were just going to get a felt' and that makes me think you may not know what you're getting yourself into in assembling a bike from a frameset. you'll spend somewhere between 300 and 500 dollars just getting it rolling depending on what you have available to you.

unless you were talking about the dispatch frameset... in which case, i have to say all of these bikes are very very distinct from that type of felt. they're generally identical to a brougham.

if i were you i'd get a tk3 and forget the frameset. that bike is amazing for the money. but you have to give us more information otherwise you may as well just read the stickies. in fact, you should probably have done that before making this thread anyway. youz trollin.

otherwise i'm just going to tell you to get an EAI Godzilla.
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Old 11-07-10 | 09:32 PM
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I know, I'm late. Leader 722TS ftw.
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Old 11-07-10 | 09:53 PM
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I'm just going to +1 Scrod's comment.
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Old 11-07-10 | 10:28 PM
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i'd just go w/ a kilo stripper
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Old 11-07-10 | 10:50 PM
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722ts is better than a kilo but not by much. it's also more expensive but not by much. i'd still rather have the 1 1/8 steerer.
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Old 11-07-10 | 10:53 PM
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AND 27.2 seatpost.
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Old 11-07-10 | 11:35 PM
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I think the leader is a much better built frame than the scrambler. I had a scrambler and after riding it for a while the tracking not great at all.
i guess that said, I have never owned a leader but it would be better.
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Old 11-07-10 | 11:54 PM
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I'm not knocking a Kilo but as someone who has owned both a Kilo and a Leader, I prefer my 722 tenfold.
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