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Old 01-06-11 | 05:17 AM
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Newbie in need of help!

So I have decided to order the Dawes SST AL from Bikes Direct, And have read that the pedals/saddle/bars are were pretty lame on the bike stock. And i am willing to order those three things when i order my bike within the next week. But i dont know how to tell what parts will fit on the bike. So i thought maybe i would post the stuff i was looking at ordering with the bike!

https://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91&...cl1=HANDLEBARS

https://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91&...ght&cl1=PEDALS

https://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91&...ro&cl1=SADDLES

Im sorry if there is a thread about this already i tried to find it, If there is just direct me in that direction. But im asking how i can tell what parts will fit the Dawes SST AL

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._al_carb_x.htm

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Old 01-06-11 | 10:33 AM
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For the types of things you're in the market for, pedals and saddles are both pretty universal.

It is foolish to order replacement parts for a bike you have not even ridden, especially when it is your first fixed gear. Get the bike, make sure it is properly assembled (take it to a shop if you don't have any bike-savvy friends to call on), and ride it for at least a few weeks before you go "upgrading".
For all you know the stock saddle is the most perfect saddle for your anatomy ever. You can't know without riding it.
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Old 01-06-11 | 11:56 AM
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+1 Don't buy anything until you ride it.
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Old 01-06-11 | 08:40 PM
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the pedals will depend on the shoes you wear with the bike. If you have shoes with thin soles you will probably be able to feel more of the pedals hot points on your feet. Any saddle will hurt and not be comfortable for a while when you first start riding so get your butt worked in on this one then if you still don't like it get a new one.

but to answer your questions, yes all of those items will fit on this bike. The saddle looks more like a bmx type saddle that doesn't seem to be very comfortable. The pedals will probably be very similarly shaped as the pedals that some with the bike if not the same. No matter what you do to it just ride it til is splodes, then start another thread like this asking if you should get a leader, iro, or FTP.
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Old 01-06-11 | 08:52 PM
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The bike will come and you'll find out that the stock saddle isnt to sabby. And the stock pedals aren't too pooie and that the stock bars with the handles on it mearly came off a store from the mall.
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Old 01-06-11 | 08:57 PM
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Uh...what store and what mall?
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Old 01-06-11 | 11:27 PM
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i've ridden the dawes al sst stock...

i found nothing wrong with the stock bars at all. to those who have a complaint, do you mind sharing and being more specific about what you thought was wrong with them?
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Old 01-07-11 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dsh
It is foolish to order replacement parts for a bike you have not even ridden....You can't know without riding it.
This

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Uh...what store and what mall?
Probably here:
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Old 01-07-11 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
+1 Don't buy anything until you ride it.
If I followed this advice I wouldn't own 4 out of my 6 bikes, all of which fit great. The original poster who is a newbie should check the geometry of the bikes he is looking at and see if he could find a bike with similar geometry at a store and test ride it. If it fits, get the bike online. Geometry has to be close though. Within .5 or 1cm. and .5 degrees for the seat tube/head angle. Also, to complicate matters a little, compare the trail on both bikes. See https://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php Plug in the numbers for the head angle, fork offset(rake), diameter of the tire you will be riding, and tire width. The trail on the bikes you are comparing should be within 2-3mm of each other. That should give you a good indication on the handling similarities. A lot of bike companies don't list their fork offset, sometimes you have to call them directly or email them for this, but if you can get the fork aftermarket online, they usually list the fork offset(rake).

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Old 01-07-11 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FastJake
Probably here:
Holy crap...this...this...this is beyond awesome. THANK YOU!!!

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Old 01-07-11 | 04:57 AM
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Yea, i thought about it and it would be dumb of me to go and buy the stuff before i have even ridden the bike. Its pretty cool that parts are pretty universal should make things a little bit easier for me.
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Old 01-07-11 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 531phile
If I followed this advice I wouldn't own 4 out of my 6 bikes, all of which fit great. The original poster who is a newbie should check the geometry of the bikes he is looking at and see if he could find a bike with similar geometry at a store and test ride it. If it fits, get the bike online. Geometry has to be close though. Within .5 or 1cm. and .5 degrees for the seat tube/head angle. Also, to complicate matters a little, compare the trail on both bikes. See https://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php Plug in the numbers for the head angle, fork offset(rake), diameter of the tire you will be riding, and tire width. The trail on the bikes you are comparing should be within 2-3mm of each other. That should give you a good indication on the handling similarities. A lot of bike companies don't list their fork offset, sometimes you have to call them directly or email them for this, but if you can get the fork aftermarket online, they usually list the fork offset(rake).
Didn't read the whole thread and taking posts out of context FTW! Glad I could help you show off your number of bikes and how much you know about geometry though.
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Old 01-07-11 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DangerDon26
Yea, i thought about it and it would be dumb of me to go and buy the stuff before i have even ridden the bike. Its pretty cool that parts are pretty universal should make things a little bit easier for me.
SOME parts are NEARLY universal.

Almost all modern pedals will work with any modern cranks.
And almost all modern two-rail saddles will work with any modern two-rail seatpost.


Many parts, however, are not universal.
-Seatposts come in a number of different sizes (tubing diameter) and using the wrong size is very bad.
-Handlebars / stems come in a number of different "clamp sizes", and using the wrong size is bad.
-Cranks come in a number of different spindle types, and using the wrong type is bad or impossible.

These are the ones you're probably most likely to run into problems with.
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If I followed this advice I wouldn't own 4 out of my 6 bikes, all of which fit great. The original poster who is a newbie should check the geometry of the bikes he is looking at and see if he could find a bike with similar geometry at a store and test ride it. If it fits, get the bike online. Geometry has to be close though. Within .5 or 1cm. and .5 degrees for the seat tube/head angle. Also, to complicate matters a little, compare the trail on both bikes. See https://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php Plug in the numbers for the head angle, fork offset(rake), diameter of the tire you will be riding, and tire width. The trail on the bikes you are comparing should be within 2-3mm of each other. That should give you a good indication on the handling similarities. A lot of bike companies don't list their fork offset, sometimes you have to call them directly or email them for this, but if you can get the fork aftermarket online, they usually list the fork offset(rake).
You misunderstood what Seau Grateau (and I) were saying.

We weren't implying that he shouldn't buy the bike.

We were saying:
"Don't buy anything (to upgrade the bike) until you ride (the bike)."

He's talking about buying a bunch of new saddles and bars and wheels before his new bike even arrives. Which is silly.
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Old 01-07-11 | 01:30 PM
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Oh...I think that's why I got a D on reading comprehension when I was a student.
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