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dsh 01-26-11 08:55 AM

Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.


But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".


Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.

adriano 01-26-11 09:10 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...345#vi-content

dsh 01-26-11 09:34 AM

Truly, the only logical choice for a budget fixed gear frame.


Although for my money, I think this is a good option as well:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRUVATIV-HAMMERS...item25603d9f1e

Will required some frame modifications but any frame builder can probably do them for less than $1,000.

clink83 01-26-11 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 12134321)
Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.


But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".


Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.

+1. Not to mention cheap crank =cheap BB, and you can for sure notice that.

stillanimal 01-26-11 01:46 PM

for real though, try to win these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sugino-Mighty-Tr...#ht_500wt_1129

TejanoTrackie 01-26-11 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by stillanimal (Post 12136031)

Er, did you notice they are 151bcd and chainring is 52T? Good luck trying to find another chainring. Also, crank arms are 171mm.

Higher Class 01-26-11 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by dsh (Post 12134321)
Don't get me wrong, I think the OP is dumb.


But it's pretty hilarious that people are saying "6 MILES IS WAY TOO SHORT TO FEEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH END TRACK CRANKS AND A CHEAP ROAD DOUBLE".


Because I'm pretty sure most track events are shorter than 6 miles, and I'm pretty sure super stiff cranks are most noticeable in all-out sprints regardless of how long your commute is. So, if anything, super stiff cranks make more sense for a 6 mile commute than a 20 mile commute, because you could possibly hammer that much harder for the whole 20 minutes it takes to go 6 miles.

Yeah, because this kid is obviously 110% busting ass like a track star on his commute.

I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.


Originally Posted by clink83 (Post 12134630)
cheap crank =cheap BB

lol wut. Like cheap seatpost = cheap saddle?

Grahamcracker 01-26-11 02:29 PM

6 miles is longer than what most people on this forum ride anyway so don't let them get you down.

To the people that say that the OP wont be able to feel a difference between the cheapo cranks and nice ones in a 6 mile ride, really???. If you've got half a brain you can tell the difference in about 6 meters.

To the OP get some omniums for 165 bones new or some used sugino 75's for around the same price, both are great cranks. A good drivetrain is a great thing to have...

Ken Cox 01-26-11 02:31 PM

How many people here think their athletic ability warrants a high end crank?

Why?

What difference will you feel?

I commute 7 miles on a bike that costs more than some people's cars.

I like beautiful machines and I can afford them.

The length of my commute, or the OP's commute, has no relevance.

He has the money, he wants to spend it, and he wants to know something about high end cranks.

I ride Sugino 75's with a Phil bottom bracket.

I don't like the aesthetics of the Phil bottom bracket (the cup sticks out on the non-drive side).

If I had it to do over, I'd go with a Sugino bottom bracket, for purely aesthetic reasons.

I have a white frame with all black components.

If black didn't matter, I'd have chosen the Dura Ace crank.

As it stands, I consider the Sugino 75 crank a work of art, worth every penny even if I just hung it on the wall and looked at it.

All the above said, my first fixed gear bike had a Sugino RD crank and I loved it.

calv 01-26-11 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 12133642)
A few popular options around this range are:

- Andel square taper
- SRAM S300
- Sugino Messenger

Dude, take your pick.

stillanimal 01-26-11 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 12136161)
Er, did you notice they are 151bcd and chainring is 52T? Good luck trying to find another chainring. Also, crank arms are 171mm.

nope didn't notice the BCD. Oops. I think 171 length is probably fine for a maddy though.

TejanoTrackie 01-26-11 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by stillanimal (Post 12136342)
I think 171 length is probably fine for a maddy though.

??

clink83 01-26-11 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Higher Class (Post 12136186)
I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.


lol wut. Like cheap seatpost = cheap saddle?

Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?

TejanoTrackie 01-26-11 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by clink83 (Post 12136404)
Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?

Yes. Example: Andel crankset with chainring $105 shipped, Andel Cobra BB $20 shipped. Total = $125. Excellent quality overall.

yummygooey 01-26-11 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by clink83 (Post 12136404)
Do you really think if someone buys a complete kit (cranks+chainring+bb) that they are going to get a quality BB for under 100 dollars? Or even for under 150?

You can get SRAM S300s from thebikesmiths.com for $88 shipped and it comes with a 48t 3/32" chainring and a GXP BB. It might not be the best BB, but it's certainly good enough for commuting.

calv 01-26-11 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 12136479)
Yes. Example: Andel crankset with chainring $105 shipped, Andel Cobra BB $20 shipped. Total = $125. Excellent quality overall.

The SRAM GXP bb isn't that expensive either and comes with both the S300 and the Omniums also right?

And that bb is pretty nice too so I thought..

dsh 01-26-11 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Higher Class (Post 12136186)
I drew the conclusion, based on OP's knowledge of cranksets, that he/she isn't an Olympic athlete and a set of cheap (but sturdy) older road crank arms would serve him just as well as whatever $300 crankset would.

That's cool. And you're 100% right.

But you didn't SAY that.
You didn't say "you won't be able to tell the difference because you're not nowledgeable or experienced enough."
You said "You won't be able to tell the difference because your commute is 6 miles."
Which is silly.

So.

clink83 01-26-11 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 12136490)
You can get SRAM S300s from thebikesmiths.com for $88 shipped and it comes with a 48t 3/32" chainring and a GXP BB. It might not be the best BB, but it's certainly good enough for commuting.

That's not a bad deal at all. To be honest, I may be biased after riding my road bike, and after seeing so many budget crank kits with cheap BBs.

avner 01-26-11 05:14 PM

I hear chain BCD and manly hood are positively correlated.

Just sayin'

Grahamcracker 01-26-11 05:22 PM

BB's are way overrated. I replace my BB once a year on my road bike. Right before race season and then it does all the winter base miles as well. I can't tell the difference between a new and fresh when i'm actually RIDING my bike. Well except when it starts creaking cause it wants grease, but yeah

hamish5178 01-26-11 05:54 PM

If you can't tell the difference why do you replace it yearly?

ianjk 01-26-11 06:36 PM

Commuted thousands of miles (25-50miles/day) year round in northern mn on one piece cranks for quite a while. Unless you are trying to shave milliseconds off of your time at the velodrome, better tires or wheels would be a much better way to spend your money. IMO your commuter should be a comfortable tank, something that can take abuse haul lots of stuff and doesn't attract thieves.

Ken Cox 01-26-11 08:01 PM

My seven mile commute represents the best part of my day.

I don't want a tank.

I want a jet fighter.

max5480 01-26-11 08:23 PM

yeah, i don't think you have to justify a nice bike even if it just sits in your room never being ridden, as long as you love it. that being said, i don't see how anyone could love a schwinn madison enough to put anymore than $50 into it (to replace a broken chain or something...) i say save some more money and buy a sick frame, then put some vintage components on it.

cc700 01-26-11 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Ken Cox (Post 12137733)
I want a jet fighter.


Originally Posted by cc700 (Post 12133630)
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