I've never purchased a "complete kit" with bottom bracket. A "crankset" usually entails crank arms, chain ring, and bolts. Some companies throw in a BB to make it seem like a better deal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say about 90% of cranksets don't come with bottom brackets, even less if it's used.

I'd say it's more like 99.9% of cranksets don't include the BB assembly or BB bearings in the case of external BBs. Sometimes vendors will put together a package with a crankset and BB, but they are separate packages from the factory.

I've yet to buy a crankset without a BB, so I guess it depends on what you buy.

middle ground?

Miche ~$160

NEW Sugino Grand Mighty 170mm (no BB) for $225. I know the seller. He's a local guy that I race with.

http://www.dicklanevelodrome.com/top...rack-bars.html

hi,so im trying to upgrade my crankset on my motobecane messenger, but i would like to keep a 48tooth count, could you guys recommend me any? and if you could recommend one thats white or chrome that would be nice too haha

ps i was looking at the sugino messanger but it seems hard to come by one with 48teeth.

kazane kz1 should be 48t

sram s300 has a 48t

some origin8 cranks on ebay probably have 48t

white cranks sound disgustingly awkward looking, except on a black bmx dj or big hit bike

SRAM Omniums come with 48t. If you keep your eye on eBay, you can find something close to the price range of the Messenger. I got my brand new Omniums for $130 shipped with a BB.

Ok sorry i have another question guys. If i was to just get the sugino messenger chain ring, what are some cranks that would fit on it, i was looking at something like pake cranks, or eightinch? sorry for the questions, im just a noob trying to learn. so thank you guys a bunch! haha

cc700, the frame is a light blue so i was trying to get a polished/white/baby blue look goin on, each to their own though haha.

also i was on bike island and this crankset seems to be decent?
http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1310
is it worth it though or should i go with something you guys suggested?

I would have a hard time hauling cargo/commuting on a featherweight track steed ;)

My "tank" weighs in around 25 pounds with racks and studded (super heavy) tires and can be left locked up without me getting paranoid about someone jacking it...

I also forget that not everyone lives on a giant hill that is covered in sand/snow/salt/ice/slush 5 months out of the year ;)

Yes, I also have an "Ice Bike" built around a Surly Karate Monkey with 296 stud Nokians (I average 12 mph on this bike).

When I need my Ice Bike, I need my Ice Bike and I appreciate it.

Otherwise, with dry pavement and no load to carry, I ride my F-16.

I've set the F-16 up for agility, braking and acceleration.

It doesn't go that fast, but it does "quick" really well (I average 15 mph in traffic).

I have a third bike set up for a longer commute, 15 miles each way, and I have biased it towards speed (I average 19.7 mph in traffic).

Of the three, I prefer the quick bike over the fast bike and the ice bike.

So I actually clicked on this thread because I thought it would be one of those: "hey, look at these $300 cranks on a $500 bike; isn't that silly" threads . . . :innocent:

We don't actually ride bikes; that would get in the way of sitting in front of the computer and talking about them, duh.


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