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Old 01-28-11 | 03:56 PM
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This tells me road pedals, but if youŽre not really doing much intense riding then IŽd suggest mountain bike pedals for the bonus of easy walkability
I concur. I use MTB because I feel it makes me more versatile. I don't have 3 fixed, I have one, so if I need to get off my bike i'm able to without bringing a change of shoes.
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Old 01-28-11 | 04:15 PM
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If you only encounter one stop light in 6 miles, it's worthwhile going clipless. Having said that, I used to use spds for commuting but have since went back to cages/straps since I prefer the convenience of wearing regular shoes.
Actually, I would say if you have frequent stops, go clipless. It's way easier to unclip and clip back in than loosen and tighten straps. I would also suggest a double sided system for ease of clipping in.
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Old 01-28-11 | 04:16 PM
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Everyone is different, I commute on MTB pedals/shoes. I am constantly on off the bike, up and down stairs, running for my train etc. I couldn't imagine doing that in road shoes on a daily basis.

I've also ridden centuries with a MTB setup and have never felt hot spots or other discomfort. Honestly, the only time I use road pedals/shoes is at the track.
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Old 01-28-11 | 04:24 PM
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How is skidding with clipless? Is there a high possibility of unclipping mid-skid?
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Old 01-28-11 | 04:26 PM
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Depends on a few things. Cleat wear, pedal float & rider form are some that come to mind. I ride clipless and brakeless and have never had a problem, but I have also heard nightmare stories from some people. YMMV.
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Old 01-28-11 | 04:54 PM
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If you go SPD, go with double-sided pedals and try Shimano's cheapest moutain bike shoe.
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I have the cheapest shimano MTB pedals and shoes i could find, and am destroying them with road salt right now. some day i'll have nice things.
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Old 01-28-11 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by carleton
See my earlier post regarding float and platform size.

There is a reason why road, triathlon, and track riders ride road pedals and only MTB and Cyclocross riders use MTB pedals (generally speaking, of course).

You gotta ask yourself, "Is my riding closer to road or MTB?"

I've used them all in the past.

It's just like cars. A jeep is great in certain situations. So is an Accord. If you were renting a car, which would you prefer on a long trip across the state? Which would you prefer to take camping?

The OP is taking a long-ish trip.
ah points taken. never really thought of it like that.
when i went clipless[truthfully i've never ridden any style but atac] i wanted a MTB style full sole shoe because i no longer live downtown and when heading into the city on my bike i wanted something i could walk around in once i locked up. carrying extra shoes[even vans slip-ons] in the knapsack 100km round trip was something i was trying to avoid. almost all my friends who ride clipless use atac as well so it just seemed logical.
if you dont mind, what would you say is the biggest downfall of atac?
i'll also mention i run my cleats L<-->R switched for the more aggressive required disengagement angle and i wear sidi bullet2s which were a steal online at the time.
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Old 01-28-11 | 07:16 PM
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Clipless pedals were the best decision I have made for my creamroller. Cages weren't my thing because I have to deal with high arched feet and wouldn't fit in regular size cages. Love them.and will never turn back
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Old 01-28-11 | 07:34 PM
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ah points taken. never really thought of it like that.
when i went clipless[truthfully i've never ridden any style but atac] i wanted a MTB style full sole shoe because i no longer live downtown and when heading into the city on my bike i wanted something i could walk around in once i locked up. carrying extra shoes[even vans slip-ons] in the knapsack 100km round trip was something i was trying to avoid. almost all my friends who ride clipless use atac as well so it just seemed logical.
if you dont mind, what would you say is the biggest downfall of atac?
i'll also mention i run my cleats L<-->R switched for the more aggressive required disengagement angle and i wear sidi bullet2s which were a steal online at the time.
My last set of MTB pedals were ATAC. I had two bikes at the time a track bike with Shimano SPD-SL Ultegra and a CX bike with TIME ATACs on it. I bought the cross bike on a good deal with intentions of learning to race CX. I never did. So, after weeks/months of riding the track bike on the track, I decided to take the CX bike for a spin around town.

"OH MY GOD", I thought to my self. The cleat attachment was tiny compared to the road pedals. The float felt springy, not free. You can't adjust the angle that the cleat points (you can with road cleats). This determines which way your foot points. Then the platform of the pedal felt tiny.

The pedal under my foot felt like it was shaped like [] in the middle of the foot with the ATACs. With SPD-SLs it feels like [|||] with the platform extending almost the width of my foot. (sorry for the ascii graphics).
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Old 01-28-11 | 09:06 PM
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Old 01-28-11 | 09:43 PM
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My last set of MTB pedals were ATAC. I had two bikes at the time a track bike with Shimano SPD-SL Ultegra and a CX bike with TIME ATACs on it. I bought the cross bike on a good deal with intentions of learning to race CX. I never did. So, after weeks/months of riding the track bike on the track, I decided to take the CX bike for a spin around town.

"OH MY GOD", I thought to my self. The cleat attachment was tiny compared to the road pedals. The float felt springy, not free. You can't adjust the angle that the cleat points (you can with road cleats). This determines which way your foot points. Then the platform of the pedal felt tiny.

The pedal under my foot felt like it was shaped like [] in the middle of the foot with the ATACs. With SPD-SLs it feels like [|||] with the platform extending almost the width of my foot. (sorry for the ascii graphics).
Maybe it was your shoes?

First off Im not too knowledgeable with this stuff and might be confusing some basic things, but I ride with an SPD setup with LG moutain shoes that seems a lot closer to the ATAC setup than SPD-SL. I can easily adjust the angle of the cleat, but thats a function of the shoe, not the cleat, and I dont feel a pedal under my feet, I feel my foot on my shoe.

Im not sure I understand what float is, but unless I have the pedals clips cranked to really high tensions, I can wiggle my feet a decent amount.

I just rode about 65 miles on wed and the setup was comfortable the whole way. Being that they are mountain shoes I have little trouble walking around shops and bars, climbing stairs, or hiking through little bits of trail. There's still a little click from the shoes themselves but its gotta be a billion times better than walking around in road shoes with an SPD-SL setup.

AND...

https://www.dzrshoes.com/

Lets see you mount those road cleats onto a shoe you wont look like a dork wearing.
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Old 01-28-11 | 09:51 PM
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I don't think anyone looks like a dork wearing road shoes.

I guess it comes down to what the person prefers; if you think you'll like a road set up, go for it and the same with mountain.

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Old 01-28-11 | 09:56 PM
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I do.
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Old 01-28-11 | 09:59 PM
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Why?
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Old 01-28-11 | 10:16 PM
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Besides walking around all funny they don't look right with street clothes.
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Old 01-28-11 | 10:27 PM
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Besides walking around all funny they don't look right with street clothes.
Neither do helmets, lights, or messenger bags.
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Old 01-28-11 | 10:48 PM
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Neither do helmets, lights, or messenger bags.
yet i wear all these to the bar.

forreals tho thanks for your input a few posts up. i've been thinking of buying a proper new roadie in the next year or two and i might try a proper road clipless setup at that time.
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Old 01-28-11 | 11:04 PM
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Neither do helmets, lights, or messenger bags.
You're right about the helmet, wrong about the other two. I think the practical points I made are still worth considering.
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Old 01-28-11 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick The Beard
You're right about the helmet, wrong about the other two. I think the practical points I made are still worth considering.
Which points?

If you haven't used a road pedal system, how can you comment on what is better? You are simply saying that you like your MTB pedals.
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Old 01-28-11 | 11:21 PM
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Which points?

If you haven't used a road pedal system, how can you comment on what is better? You are simply saying that you like your MTB pedals.
What Im saying is that all the things that you say road setups can do that mountain cant aren't really exclusive to big clunky road setups. It is possible to wear mountain setups that address all of the issues you had with them.
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Old 01-29-11 | 12:29 AM
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Which points?

If you haven't used a road pedal system, how can you comment on what is better? You are simply saying that you like your MTB pedals.
I have not used road pedals either, as a matter of disclaimer. However, I have toured with my mountain pedals for thousands of miles, and I can say that comfort was never an issue, regardless of whatever float or platform differences mountain pedals have from road ones. When you're traveling any sort of "long" distance, I'd be more concerned about saddle comfort than pedal comfort, quite frankly.

I would definitely suggest mountain over road if there is any amount of walking involved, though.
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Old 01-29-11 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JesusBananas
I have toured with my mountain pedals for thousands of miles
"Oh reeaaally?". He said sarcastically in a British accent.

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Old 01-29-11 | 12:55 AM
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Old 01-29-11 | 02:01 AM
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ok, sorry i started the fat fight of mtb vs. road cleats. carleton, as always your advice is knowledgable and much appreciated. but i have my heart set on sidi D5's and seeing as how everyone says it's an opinion thing i think i'll try the mtb setup on my fixie commuter and put some road cleats on my lemond tourmalet and see which one i like better. but out of curiousity, carleton, what's your preffered road setup?
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Old 01-29-11 | 02:26 AM
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with spd style, start with low tension.

I've slowly been making my tension higher on my pedals and noticed significantly less "accidental" slip outs.
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